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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I agree with having trade schools and classes for students who want it. But I think people erroneously assume that all kids who are not college bound would have any more success in the trades.  Being in a trade still requires commitment, a decent attitude, etc.  I don’t want a lazy or dumb electrician or plumber.  A lot of kids who bomb in college might not do much better in the trades. [/quote]

A lot of kids who "bomb in college" have had 13 years of education system that doesn't suit their learning styles.  Many need a more active and hands on experience.  The kid who hates English and history often excels at hands on auto mechanics or plumbing.  They are not Lazy---they just are sick of book learning/being forced to spend the day sitting at a desk.  So let's engage them in a more hands on experience starting in MS/HS and see if they are "less lazy".  [/quote]

We DO have trade schools starting in high school. You still need to have a minimum level of "book leaning" too.[/quote]

Where I live we do not have trade schools starting in HS, but we desperately need them.  And yes, some minimum level of book learning is required.  But those 3 hours of "book learning" will go over so much better if in the afternoon a kid gets to spend 3-4 hours of hands on learning/ something mechanical that interests them.  And I'd argue those kids might do better with a basic finance/stats class rather than Algebra 2 as a grad requirement.  Give them some useful "academic courses".  Don't make a kid who struggles in English take Spanish 1&2 in order to graduate HS---let them focus on what they are good at and interested in.  Forcing them to take courses they don't like/dont see the use for is not going to make them like it.  [/quote]

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