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Sorry, but I've personally witnessed job candidates have doors open at the sight of the Ivy name on their resume. In multiple different fields.

The brand value is real, and wishing it weren't so doesn't change reality.

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These anecdotes are so dumb to support a subject line like OP's. Logical reasoning failure.[/quote]

And you're basing your opinion on what data?[/quote]

I think they’re basing it on OPs stupid post. That’s all the data you need for that conclusion. [/quote]

Not a very scientific outlook, which will lead to a 'garbage in, garbage out' conclusion.

Any company that's hiring simply because someone attended a specific college is not going to be around long.[/quote]

So you’re in support of OPs conclusion based on two anecdotes. You’re quite the analyst. [/quote]

No, I'm basing it on the research done by Dale and Kruger, decades of observing life and asking questions, all of the anecdotes (admittedly not strong enough alone) in Where You Go is not Who You'll Be all of the data gathered by Less High School Stress, etc.

And your evidence that OP is incorrect comes from where? A ranking that's based on criteria someone else is telling you should matter to every single one of the millions of kids applying to college every year?[/quote]

This is interesting. Kids who go to top schools are, more often than not, privileged. Not all of them, of course, but many of them. According to Daniel Golden, "... the rich buy their under-achieving children’s way into elite universities with massive, tax-deductible donations." This might explain why Jared Kushner got into Harvard, despite less than stellar grades, after Daddy pledged a $2.5 million donation. Going to an expensive prep school, getting costly SAT coaching, etc., doesn't hurt one's chances of acceptance to elite colleges either. Perhaps that is why there is now less social mobility in the U.S. than in, for example, the Netherlands, Norway, and Finland. America isn't the meritocracy it used to be.
 
I have read that kids with similar stats tend to perform similarly after graduation, regardless of their alma mater. However, privilege no doubt continues to exert influence in adult life. Wealthy kids sometimes work for their parents' corporations or benefit from their parents' contacts, or the parents fund a new business for Junior. Kids at elite schools are likelier to have influential professors who can swing opportunities for them. I would guess tech careers, where raw intelligence is significant, are more meritocratic than careers in certain other fields.

My brother always told his kids, "Your job is to enjoy your childhood. I want you to get Bs and Cs in school and not sweat it." He has four happy, well-adjusted children who attended in-state universities and have successful marriages and careers. They out-earn my friend's kids, who were prepped for Ivies from infancy (both complied and went to Ivies).

Different strokes. There are many paths to success. For some kids, attending an elite school is an exhilarating experience in itself.

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Much wisdom in this post!  [/quote]

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