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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am having a disagreement with my spouse about saying grace in a setting where not everyone is a "grace sayer."

One of us thinks that people who say grace should be able to say it wherever they are, including at someone else's house (who do not say grace) or at a restaurant with others who do not participate in this practice. This person thinks that everyone else should respectfully remain silent and refrain from eating until the grace has been said.

The other of us thinks that saying grace in a "mixed" situation is a bit obtuse, and that those who customarily say grace can forgo it on these occasions or quietly say it in their head, but they should not say grace aloud and not expect others to delay their dining.

What does DCUM think?[/quote]

Obtuse is used as a veiled insult for being stupid, simple minded, or willfully ignorant.

Why are you or your spouse calling people who say grace simple, stupid, and ignorant?

That’s a bad way to talk about people who think you are their friend. I would not want to be friends with someone who thought I was simple or ignorant because of my religion.

It says so much about you (or your spouse) that you would call people names because of their religion, and none of it good.

words associated with the adjective obtuse
slow to understand
dense
dopey
dull
dumb
imperceptive
insensitive
opaque
slow on uptake
stolid
thick

I think the correct answer is that neither people who say grace nor people who do not say grace eat with bigots who call their friends and acquaintances hurtful names behind their backs.

Better yet: be honest and tell your friends you find them ignorant and simple, and let them know who you really are so they won’t be disappointed when they lose a friendship. They will be glad to not hang out with backstabbing people who judge them negatively and think they are superior to them.

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You are being obtuse, or willfully ignorant, of the post. OP did not say either person thinks religious people are obtuse for saying grace in general, only when saying it in "mixed company". Please learn to read before you start lecturing others on their use of language. [/quote]

Bigot #2 or op pretending to be a pp:

you lack basic manners. as does op.

you lack respect for people in general.

you are so manipulative that you will participate in calling people names and insulting their intelligence, and then try to pretend the person that points out your horrendous attitude towards others is the ignorant one.

People should not be friends with people like you because you don’t respect them.

op is calling people stupid and slow with a word that doesn’t seem bad, and these people are their friends.

Decent humans don’t call their friends insulting names.

I wish I could warn op’s friends they are thought of as dull witted imbeciles who are slow and ignorant by someone they think is their friend, I hate when someone is openly admitting they treat people badly- it’s almost bragging. 
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