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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I strongly believe in LRE for students with disabilities.  LRE sometimes means placement in a gen ed room, with support.  That support is often not supplied, despite the law.

LRE sometimes means a self contained class, or partial inclusion in a gen ed room, or it can mean a therapeutic school.  Students who are violent are entitled to FAPE and LRE, but that doesn't mean they are entitled to be in gen ed. This is the crux of the issue.  No child or staff member should have to attend school where they are harmed.  Students with behavioral and emotional issues are sometimes harming other students and staff.  This is not okay.  I don't care if a student is being violent because of their disability or not.  If they are being violent because of their disability, then they should absolutely still have access to LRE...but LRE for them isn't gen ed.[/quote]

If might be, if supports in the gen ed classroom would provide a safe environment. [/quote]

What supports do you envision need to be provided in a gen ed room to provide a safe environment?  I taught in a room with 2 full time TA's (only provided because my principal and I screamed bloody murder to our school board and upper admins and I said if I didn't get a 2nd aide, I was quitting, which I eventually did because not even that helped, and they still wanted to "give the student more time"), and at any given time there could be up to 4 additional staff (sped teacher, speech teacher, BCBA, principal, sped admin, etc) in the room attempting to de-escalate the violent kids unsuccessfully while the class as a whole (minus 1-2 kids) was evacuated.  
We offered specific SEL lessons, choices, visual timers, weighted blankets, fidget toys, stand spots, social stories, social work services several times per week and much more.  What more do you feel should be provided that might make the classroom safe enough that violent children could attend and not harm others?  We had 6 months of documentation, my principal had been bruised, a sub had been threatened with scissors, I was threatened with being shot, objects had been thrown, items were destroyed.  [/quote]

I said "might." For some, a 1:1 that can de-escalate behaviors will be sufficient. That won't work for every child, in which case more restrictive placements may be LRE, but several posters here want to simply segregate kids based on disabilities, without regard for potentially effective supports.[/quote]

No you are jumping to that conclusion.  I think you are taking this very personally for your kids situation. Believe it or not,  often a 1 on 1 can be the most restrictive environment from a personal space and autonomy point of view even though the kid is around peers, they do not have freedom.  If my ASD kid ever needed a 1 on 1, I would advocate for having him in self contained or smaller class rather than that because I have seen how that relationship works. [/quote]

How is it jumping to a conclusion to say it might work?

The kids with violent behaviors and/or SIBs that would make a 1:1 an option at all would likely either have a 1:1 or be in a class with a 1:2 ratio. Only in rare situations would paraeducator support in the inclusive gen ed environment not be LRE, provided that works.[/quote]

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