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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Huge spike?  [/quote]

it’s honestly like these people get excited from contemplating a “huge” spike[/quote]

There is a difference between giving a warning and getting "excited."

If you don't already have long covid, and don't want to mask, fine. Go for it. [/quote]

We don't want mandates coming back because of those who want to mask and, most importantly, can't wait to force everyone to mask again.  In some places mandates already restarted.  The idea that we will continue living like this with masking and possibly lockdown waves every now and then and all the division and friction among people doesn't make me happy.  If it makes you happy, you are a sociopath.  We know that this virus isn't going away, it's a merry-go-round thing.  Masking and lockdowns didn't stop it even in places implementing most draconian measures.  And it's not about personal protection, this has been always available to everyone who wanted.  Some continued wearing masks and never stopped, they were not unicorns. 
 and nobody really cared about this until the usual "recommendations" that lead to mandates in some places first (already started) and then spread like cancer all over, into every classroom, office, store, public transit, etc.   [/quote]

It doesn’t make us “happy” to acknowledge that this is in fact what is happening. It is reality. There will be waves. They are disproportionately dangerous for some in our society and not to others. The question is: how do we respond to those facts?

Your preference is we all act like it’s not happening and some degree of eugenic selection occurs and in fact may even be celebrated (as it has been in this very thread).

My preference is a society that values inclusion of disabled people, and in a society like the one I want there will be some masking required—especially in places where personal presence is not optional.

For those of us who cannot take the chance of repeated COVID infection, those mask rules make us more free to move around the world with the same freedom you claim to so prize for yourself and in general.

We can each repeat ourselves about this forever. The bottom line is you are highly ideologically motivated to act like masks do not matter and I am highly motivated by a desire to keep living as normally as possible, and without additional disability, to act like they do. Don’t confuse that with whether I am “happy” about it or not.[/quote]

But if the mask protects the wearer, why do you need others to wear the mask? [/quote]

because they are in love with the slogan “my mask protects you and your mask protects me.” I have a very sweet friend who would get upset about this because she truly believed that as long as anyone else believed that her masking would help them, she should do it. she didn’t want to make anyone uncomfortable. she  wasn’t open to discussing the actual science or acknowledging that some people really dislike masking (or are prejudiced by it) because it upset her to feel like people were being “mean” about it. [/quote]

My view on this has nothing to do with making anyone comfortable or uncomfortable. Comfortable or not, mean or not—it’s irrelevant to this view. The question is: are we doing all we can to keep people in my community—who are also in the disabled community—alive and as healthy as possible, or not?

My answer is we should be. Yours is that we shouldn’t.

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The basic answer to this is of course we’re not. We’ve never gotten close. But if this was really your objective, you should be focusing your advocacy on universal healthcare and food/housing security, not mask-wearing. [/quote]

Speaking as someone on universal health care, let me tell you how much it sucks.  We regularly get denied specialists or referred out and only the absolute worst doctors take the insurance.  And, if we can be seen on base its months to see any doctor.  And, you cannot get a primary care within a month and when you email you're told to go to the ER or urgent care but you cannot go to an urgent care without a referral which takes days to approve so you end up out of pocket.  And, the pharmacy refuses to fill prescriptions about 1/3 the time and it's a huge back and forth between the pharmacy and doctors.  I've been off a medication for months because the pharmacy claims it's not in the system and the doctor insists it is and refuses a new prescription.  And, they keep you on things like cholesterol medications and refuse to test yearly now to even see if you need them as the medication is cheaper than a blood test.  And, to get new prescriptions you have to use one system, refills another and they cannot be picked up at the same place and both have extremely limited hours.  However, the ER staff are generally nice and helpful but then you risk getting something worse.  Pre-covid I used the ER for my primary care.  Oh, and things like MRI's and CT scans, are a few month wait.  And, if you have lump in your breast you are also waiting months for it to get checked (they used to have same day appointments but none of the clinics can schedule their own appointments so you have to beg the appointment line and usually they say contact the clinic who sends you back to the appointment line).  And, the appointment line sometime has an hour or two wait to speak to someone and they put you on hold a lot so often you get disconnected and have to start over.  And, the worst is you schedule appointments months out with specific doctors only to see a resident or intern and at best you see their supervising doctor for all of two minutes and those appointments take 2-3 hours as they don't know what they are doing.  And, often you get sent away with no help as they shrug their shoulders and say its too complicated for their skill level.[/quote]

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