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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The essays will be annoying even for URMs, being asked by colleges to "sell trauma," as a recent article on this discussed.

What about the National Recognition Programs for URMs from College Board? They expanded during COVID, including not only the top 10% of PSAT scorers per group by state, but also those with a 3 on two AP exams, not a very high bar. Back door?[/quote]

“Back door” expressly forbidden by scotus. [/quote]
NP. URMs with high stats, however common or uncommon, are also likely to have this award. Will colleges be so afraid of litigation that they would reject a high scoring URM because this award is on the app but no trauma essay?[/quote]
DP. There are going to be some applicants as you describe, URMs with high stats and the award, no trauma essay, no economic disadvantage. With high stats, wouldn't admission be easy to defend as long as the applicant's race is not an explicit basis? Holistic admission, essay reading in particular, is ultimately subjective.[/quote]

No. Asians will sue, saying the school admitted 70% of Blacks with high stats but only 20% of Asians with the same high stats (or whatever the actual numbers are). And since the actual numbers aren’t public, schools who turn away even one Asian student and admit even one Black, white, or Hispanic student are going to get sued. Maybe they won’t win, but I keep poring over the opinions and I can’t say for sure that they’ll lose.[/quote]
To extend this further, are you suggesting that colleges will feel pressure to deny URMs specifically, keep their numbers down, to avoid litigation?[/quote]

Whites, too. At high SAT scores there are many more Asians in the applicant pool than whites; an argument can be made that pretty much all elite colleges should be majority Asian. When Harvard increased the number of seats they offered to Asians, they decreased the number they offered to whites. [/quote]

There's a fallacy that a SAT score is the definitive factor in selecting an applicant. Far from it. Standardized test scores are becoming less relevant each admissions cycle.[/quote]

Yes. To exclude Asians. It’s a plot to keep Asians out. [/quote]

Really?

I thought it was the "personality " score that was the excuse ( note that the SCOTUS banned affirmative action but did not stop the personality score...hmm).

Bogus.[/quote]

Schools knew they were going to lose this and have already started moving the goalposts with “test optional.”

Obviously yes previously they sandbagged Asians with personality scores as was crushingly obvious in discovery.

TO is the new strategy to exclude them for the crime of having too many qualified students as a race. [/quote]

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