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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/20/business/liberal-arts-stem-salaries.html

College is not trade school! What you make starting out isn’t very relevant. Think long-term.[/quote]
STEM majors aren’t in “trade school”.  :roll: They are as highly educated as their humanities peers and have as many options for flexible career shifts long term.

Also, while salaries may eventually equal out, that fast start allows STEM majors to pay off loans quickly, save to pay cash for a car, and save for a down payment on a house. Compound interest and early investment in the stock market is a wonderful thing for retirement.
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This!  The VAST MAJORITY of STEM kids are smarter/more intelligent than the VAST MAJORITY of English grads.  The only smart kids that WANT to get an English degree are those that love English or are getting an 'easy' degree for a high GPA as a stepping stone to grad school (medicine, law or MBA). The first group will score high on job/career satisfaction and the latter, of course, will make money compared to a CS grad that didn't go to grad school.  A third group will just coast on family connections.. Get into a decent school, study English or something equally fu fu, get a job with daddy's company or daddy's friend's and go up the ladder.  The skills needed for a high level job are less cerebral and more interpersonal.  I know someone who dropped out of college (English major) who 20 years later is the COO of a large company in another country (daddy's connections) and seems to be doing well (anecdotal, of course).  I also know many, many STEM grads that decided to get an MBA and are rubbing shoulders with the C Suite.

If you were to measure the collective wealth of ALL STEM undergrads and compare that to ALL liberal arts grads adjusted for college pedigree, I bet the the STEM grads would be way ahead of the LA peers at any age group.  Common sense.[/quote]

Provide data to prove your point, PP. Your post is pure conjecture. [/quote]

Mmm.. I made a statement along the lines of "If you jump off your second floor bedroom window, you'll break your leg" and you want me to bring data to prove it!  :shock:  :shock:  Looks like common sense is not your forte.[/quote]

DP: I don't think the relative matter of IQ scores of STEM vs. Non-STEM is a commonsense given.  Verbal IQ is not likely higher among STEM majors than English, history or social science majors for instance.  [/quote]
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Physics and mathematics majors actually have higher verbal SAT scores than sociology, psychology, communications, and other social sciences majors[/quote]

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