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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm in AACPS.  Literally every concern/issue/complaint in this thread about why it "can't" happen in MoCo was raised in AACPS as well.

The busses did, indeed, end up being a bit of a fiasco this year, but it sounds like that's been an across-the-board issue with the lack of bus drivers, just slightly exacerbated by the new start times.

The rest of the issue work themselves out.
Sure, some families relied on the high school kids to pick up the elementary school kids, and so now they need after care.  But you also had a bunch of families who no longer need morning care, because their high school kid can get the elem kid to school, or the parents can now take them on their way to work.  And of course After care for elem kids shifted their times.

Extra curriculars shifted their times - some are now before school and some are just a little later.

It's too soon to see if it makes any direct difference in student achievement, but after a TON of hand wringing over the last year and a half, people have now basically adjusted and everything is fine - and the teenagers are getting more sleep.

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Why would people think teenagers need more sleep than ES kids?[/quote]
The science is clear that the natural circadian rhythm for teens is later than for ES kids or adults.

Here's just one:

"Early start time was associated with significant sleep deprivation and daytime sleepiness. The occurrence of REM sleep on MSLT indicates that clinicians should exercise caution in interpreting MSLT REM sleep in adolescents evaluated on their “usual” schedules. Psychosocial influences and changes in bioregulatory systems controlling sleep may limit teenagers' capacities to make adequate adjustments to an early school schedule."
https://academic.oup.com/sleep/article/21/8/871/2726004
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But HS need 8-9 hours

A kindergarten kid needs 11 hours[/quote]

And kindergarteners have no problem going to bed at 8pm.  No teenager is going to be able to do that.[/quote]

Don’t you get it? They need 3 more hours of sleep! Going to bed at 8 pm is like going to bed at 11 pm for teenagers.  My first grader has trouble going to bed at 8pm and often delay to 9ish and getting up at 8 am is hard for him. Every morning I struggle with getting him up to catch a bus at 8:30 am.[/quote]

This sounds like a parenting issue and the rest of the county should not have to adjust because you cannot get your kid up and ready for school.  You could also drive him.[/quote]

What are you talking about? There is no adjustment needed to keep the current schedule. But swapping ES and HS start time makes the the whole county adjust their schedule. Seems you have reading issues.[/quote]

No, it doesn't make sense to swap the times.  HS kids have homework, ES rarely do or very little.  HS kids have sports, activities, volunteer jobs, drivers ed, employment, have to babysit younger kids, and many other things after school.  Pushing the time back will only push the schedule back and they will just go to bed later.  You seem to have logic issues.[/quote]

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