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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I sweat profusely. Been that way all my life. I sweat at the drop of a hat even a teen and 20-something multi-sport athlete. Cultural norms and acceptance around sweat and resulting odor would have to change.

Also, speed limits on bike routes would have to be imposed and low enough to accommodate walkers and children.

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:shock: Why do walkers and children need to be on bike routes?[/quote]

Is this a serious question? [b]Most off road bike trails are multi-use, meaning for pedestrians too[/b]. I mean the ones that go through parks or on the sides of roads separated by grass, not bike lanes within the roadway. And children bike places for transportation, too. [/quote]

Yeah, those aren't really bike routes. :(  With the "shared use" paths, the shared use is non-ideal for both pedestrians and bicyclists.[/quote]
Because cyclist don’t know how to share. [/quote]

I really don’t get this sharing mantra that is being thrown left and ride. “Share the road” now “share the bike route”. If the city is serious about bikes as a transport means, they cannot “share” routes with cars or with pedestrians. We are not talking about weekend trails. At least that’s not how I understood the OP. It is using a bike as means of transport. You cannot mix different speeds and expect there not to be issues or injuries. Bikes and cars cannot share road. And similarly, a bike cannot go at speed of pedestrians - that can work for a weekend / recreational purpose, but not if you need to get to work daily, or using it as means of transport.

The key issue, is that bikes are being looked at as optional or recreation use, not as means of transport. This is why countries like Germany, Netherlands, etc have dedicated bike lanes. Not mixing bikes either with cars where they are in danger, or with pedestrians who may be injured by bikes.[/quote]

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