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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I wouldn’t fault anyone who does, that’s just this stupid game. [/quote]

I would. It's not a game, and lying is unethical. [/quote]

What’s unethical is admitting people on the basis of race. [/quote]

+100000

Asking my race and using that in admission is actually a crime.[/quote]

Agreed. It’s discriminatory.

And what it does is minimize the accomplishments of truly qualified URMs by admitting some not so qualified ones. My friend has a smart, hard-working half Black, half-Asian son. People always assume he got in an Ivy because of his race, but I know the kid and can tell you that he definitely had the stats. That DC always feels defensive about his acceptance.
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You don’t get it then. All applicants have the stats. What makes this kid get a yes when other equivalent kids get a no is many times: race/ethnicity. That’s the point. Go read the posts on here about how a very high/perfect stats kid got rejected from a competitive school. Race plays a part and can help “put a thumb on the scale” as was mentioned during the Supreme Court argument. [/quote]

+100000. I graduated hs 30y ago. The same bs happened then. No one in the top 10 of our class got into harvard, princeton, yale, etc. But guess who did? Someone ranked 25 that was of the correct race. Nothing against as he was qualified but he simply was a higher than average student... but not top 10.[/quote]

And can you imagine that that someone might have had qualities, experiences, and even stats that you’re not aware of — that mattered more than yet another “top 10” student at your HS?

Being top 10, even from Exeter, isn’t necessarily going to make an application stand out — although if that student is 1st Gen, many would take a second look.

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Yes i can imagine that. But he was not recognized for his academics nor were his extracurriculars particularly notable. His only notable attribute was he was non white/non asian. Hence he got into multiple top ivy schools vs. the top 10 all went to lesser ivys, duke etc.. very good schools but not top ivys. Hence the "thumb on the scale" comments. If you think giving people a leg up because of race is fine then just say it. Most would not agree[/quote]

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