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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Why don't parents understand that? The first kid will get into just about all of the places the second kid got into to, plus has a shot at the highest tier schools. The issue is the parents/high achieving kids want the same acceptance rates as the second kid, but at the most selective schools in the country. THAT's what they are complaining about! [/quote] Except that's not true. I know plenty of kids like the first kid who have NOT been accepted to the schools that the second group of kids have, because the first kids run into yield protection.[/quote] The yield protect thing is terrible. It's become about status and money, rather than actually about academics. The cost of colleges are insane, and you have to jump through hoops to apply.[/quote] Please explain how it's about "status and money"? If anything those with money have the resources to test prep, hire $10K college counselors to help prepare this applications, hire the right private tutors for academics, etc.. And why is "yield protect thing" terrible? Colleges are a business. The admissions office job is to end up with a class of X students who matriculate in the fall. To do that they must offer spots to Y students. It's a challenging job to determine what percent of those Y students will "say yes" and matriculate. Especially when they know that a certain percentage of their applicants (if they areranked 20-50) are definitely using them for a backup school. Get it wrong and you either have overcrowding or a small freshman class. The same ones complaining about this would also complain if their kid had to dorm in a "forced Triple", couldn't get the freshman classes they need to be on track for their major, have to wait an hour to get food at dining hall, can't find anywhere to study in library cause it's too busy, etc. It's your job as an applicant to show demonstrated interest and make them think you are their top choice in colleges (fake it until you make it), especially if you are above 90% scores for the school. This can be done in many ways---but it's up to you to demonstrate this. I know of one school who is known to yield protect, as it's known as "Ivy/T20 reject school". Some years they calculate yield right and nobody gets off the waitlist. 2 years later, the CDS says that over 1000 students were offered a place off the WL (that was for fall 2020 so pre TO)---the freshman class had ~1350 students. So while we don't know how many took the WL offer, they had to dig deep into their WL to fill their class. But that means that they miscalculated their yield---many students did NOT accept their offer, likely because they got into a "Better School". They would much rather have the instance where they offer nothing to the WL kids, or only to 10-15 kids to backfill the slots. [/quote]
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