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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Pretty sure the educated legal immigrants value things like: hard work, following the rules, staying out of trouble and crime, education, freedoms, land rights, liberty, local govt over huge central govt, etc.

Many countries in 2023 don’t have the above values or characteristics, more reward them. But maybe with a few less tests, defunding the police, reparations, admit and job quotas, and welfare programs we can really accel. [/quote]

OP here. There is a lot of good about the US for sure and us immigrants really value the above! I’m not anti welfare though and as an immigrant I think the US healthcare system is pretty insane. I do believe in a [b]single payer healthcare system.[/b] I do feel the US has gone backwards when it comes to freedom of speech. Not sure what happened to the ACLU. [/quote]

England no longer does.

And remember, Canada went bankrupt in 1998.[/quote]

OP here. The UK doesn't have a single payer healthcare system. It has a public healthcare system (which is being dismantled unfortunately). My home country does too. But I don't think it works for the US. Canada's system has many issues but its definitely better than people not having healthcare at all. But what's happening in Canada's healthcare system is definitely problematic.[/quote]

Oh no, is it happening again? Public health insurance only lasted 25 years sustainable with death panels and long waits?[/quote]

Not the time and place for this debate given the thread (my fault for bringing it up lol) but the US healthcare system doesn't offer a better alternative. And yes I think the death panels are crazy (referring to the Maid here)[/quote]

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