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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How much do you make?[/quote] Not enough to deal with this. $160K plus a $4-5K bonus.[/quote] That’s in what I consider all-hours email checking salary range. I thought you were going to say sub 6 figures. [/quote] +1 Feels like a 8 hrs/day + check email a few times type level My sibling makes $38k,is overtime eligible with approval, and does not check email or teams after hours or weekends. Now that seems reasonable.[/quote] +1. At that salary, you likely have some real responsibility. Your boss handled this poorly, but at that comp level you shouldn’t expect to clock in 8:30 to 5p and be offline otherwise. (Note, they don’t pay you enough to check email nonstop, but you could be doing more.) You should be checking email when you get up, to just to make sure nothing came in. I’m at a nonprofit earning $220k and I do that when I wake up at 6. [/quote] This is why people think nonprofits are disorganized. If you routinely have to check email at six it’s not a well-run organization.[/quote] Exactly. No one should be surprised with an 8am meeting at 6am outside of a true emergency. This deadline has been known for a month and management should have been working to meet it much earlier than the day before the deadline.[/quote] Checking at 6 isn’t about being sure I catch last minute requests/accommodating someone’s poor planning. It’s about being sufficiently plugged to an extent commensurate with my comp and seniority level. 99% of the time it’s all innocuous stuff (news alerts, email from vendor/someone working late), but this means in the rare case something like this happens, I wouldn’t be caught off guard. And if there were a conflict, I would be able to communicate that out. It’s very telling that OP wants to make this kind of money but believes she’s entitled to totally check out after 5. Both supervisor and employee have room for improvement here. [/quote] That’s a good salary but not 24 hrs on call salary. I earn about that much and I absolutely would do a meeting outside of my normal hours (AM or PM) if necessary and I got notice during my normal hours. But no, I am not checking email when I wake up and before I go to bed. [/quote] Agreed, that’s not a 24h on call salary. But we can agree to disagree - I do think it’s a “check email once after hours” salary. [/quote] And in this case, if OP happened to check it at 8:30pm, they would’ve missed this meeting invite.[/quote] Nope, in this case OP woke up earlier than that to get her daughter ready for school and then checked at 8:30. If she had checked earlier, she could have declined the meeting and not have been blindsided.[/quote] Why the heck does she need to check emails during her personal time? She should use her precious morning time to enjoy a cup of coffee, a book, do yoga or meditate, spend quality time with her kids, and get them out the door pleasantly. And before you say it, checking email is not a “5 second” task. If you have a position of responsibility, [b]opening your inbox reminds you of a lot of things that you need to think about and work on. Those things stay with you even when you put the phone back on, and distract you from the things you actually want to do during your personal time.[/b] Better to completely unplug unless you are in a job where a non-response equals literal life and death.[/quote] +1 exactly this - I'm a PP who tried to capture this in another comment. This is why I don't check email just before bed and as soon as I wake up, or nonstop during the wknd or holidays. It's just a way to be stressed about work all the time. And yes I make more than OP salary. That's not a 24/7 on call salary by a longshot.[/quote]
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