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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Multiply the fees for uniforms, trips, and other things, the cost becomes excessive especially for families who have multiple children in the school. It’s unnecessary and excessive. Some things run through the school accounts but most don’t. I personally do not believe anyone is financially profiting except for the chosen vendors, however, who would know because there’s no oversight.

Such excessive fees discourage participation for what are public school activities. When trips are involved, students pay for the school staff who chaperone so staff do get the perk of a free trip.[/quote]

People I know in other businesses not only get their work trips paid for by their employer, they get paid for the days they are on those trips, and they get perks like choosing where to eat and having someone else pay for their food on the trips!

Yes, as a teacher who is using my unpaid leave time to accompany the kids on a trip, I don’t also expect to have to pay for working 16 hour days to make your kids’ trip safe and possible.  Suggesting otherwise is like whining that your hotel maid was getting a free “stay” in your hotel room while scrubbing the toilet.[/quote]

You are a public school (county government) employee. There is no requirement for you to travel to do your job. There’s also no requirement for the curriculum to take students to locations that cost students several thousands of dollars. Trips to Puerto Rico, Miami, Orlando, New Orleans, and NYC are not for educational purposes. [/quote]

Right, these trips are not requirements.  They are like summer camps or any other extracurricular that parents choose for their child, either because they want childcare, or they want to pad your kid's resume for college, or they simply want to make their kid happy.  Do kids learn from them?  Sure they do, learning in the arts is wonderful.  But the learning isn't addressing standards, and these trips aren't required parts of the curriculum.  So, parents who want their kids to participate in these extra activities need to pay the cost of them, and part of that cost is the cost of sending chaperones.  The idea that teachers, who are putting in plenty of unpaid hour for these trips, should also pay for their own seat on the bus or their own room in the hotel is absurd.  I can not think of another profession where people would suggest that.

The dresses for shows that are required for class are different.  It sounds like this teacher made a bad choice in choosing an expensive dress that needed expensive hemming.  But complaining that a teacher is somehow milking the system for a free trip is absurd.  [/quote]

Not all parents want or can afford these trips.  The teachers choose the trips, and expect the kids to go regardless of cost.  At a W school, more families can probably pay, but at other schools not so much.  I'm not sending my kid on a $600+ trip when we don't travel at all right now and when we do its as a family.[/quote]

As a teacher who chaperones trips I don’t expect kids to go, they are invited to go, and parents can choose just like they choose for all the other extracurriculars.

I am not sure how the fact that you don’t choose to send your kid means I should spend my money on your kids’ trip.  It is entirely reasonable for someone who is on a trip for work, whether it’s optional or not, to have their room paid for by their employer, and it’s entirely reasonable for an employer who is offering a paid extra to cover a cost that includes the expense associated with having employees there.  [/quote]

The school trips are considered to be field trips. Do students pay extra for any other class field trips and do teachers take unpaid leave for field trips?[/quote]

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