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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Speaking of temper tantrums, how does being so angry and irate at teachers 2 years later help your child learn this year?

Is your vitriol helping children get help or is it making the situation worse?

Or are only teachers expected to put your child above their family/yourself?[/quote]

Is that how you’d characterize the situation of the tens of millions of people that worked through the pandemic in public-facing and/or crowded conditions? Including the people that made sure you had food, utilities, medical services/supplies, public safety services, and countless other essential (and nonessential) goods and services?[/quote]

No it is how I characterize this thread and people who are still rehashing this argument after 2 years.

There are different issues now. Are they related? Sure 
If you want to help and not just spew anger then help. If not your anger is just anger and only you can change that.[/quote]

Schools and teachers can help by acknowledging their past mistakes and promising to act differently in the future.[/quote]

Ok we are so very very sorry.  The pandemic was mishandled by school boards, the president who threw out the CDC pandemic playbook, superintendents and the NIH.  Teachers taught these people and are therefore responsible for their actions.  It is true, even teachers themselves made errors of judgement and wanted to work from home. In the next global emergency we will act differently. This new, improved and better plan will be based upon the needs of the pandemic of 2020, not whatever future situation the world will be facing.  [/quote]

Thank you for demonstrating my point. It’s a problem that teachers haven’t acknowledged the harm they did to kids through their actions. It’s not even clear many of them fully understand that harm or the role they played.[/quote]

You are not getting apologies. You are not getting reparations. You are not getting future promises.

GROW UP AND MOVE ON. Or keep holding your breath and impotently stamping your feet like a toddler. Your choice.[/quote]

Ok. Then watch public support for public schools and teachers continue to be in the gutter.[/quote]

You are acting like this is a threat to teachers.  Who are you honestly hurting but kids?

It is like in a divorce.  If the parents are fighting over kids, custody or whatever in the end the KIDS are the ones who pay the price.

The only thing you are really doing is hurting kids. Especially those who already start with fewer advantages.

The teachers can and will find other work. The kids only get one shot at this and 2 years are already gone. You can take shots and get mad and kick and cry, or you can say “That sucked, but let’s get back to work.  We have even more to do. How can I help?”
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No, I was trying to say public schools are threatened.  If you care about protecting public schools then you should be looking for a path that not only meets the needs of teachers, but also students and their families. Otherwise more and more of those families are going to turn to private schools, which we're already seeing happening. That will only increase political support for private school vouchers.  And yes, it's going to be the disadvantaged kids that lose out, not really the DCUM crowd.[/quote]

DCUM kids are generally in the top 5% of the nation economically.  Most people who have left for private school already have.  It's not just disadvantaged kids who will and are suffering, it's middle income and even upper middle income kids are too or at the very least, won't be able to afford even the cheapest of private schools.[/quote]

Exactly. And those middle-income families rely on schools. That doesn't make them bad parents. The narrative that "school isn't child care" and that parents should have had backup plans for an 18-month school closure was a [b]ridiculous attack on working families[/b].[/quote]

What? That is the weirdest take on this I have ever seen.  Are you suggesting schools closed just to “attack” families?  Attack means there was malicious intent.  Wow.  That is NUTS!
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Read it again. The comments made by the teachers unions, and some teachers themselves, included attacks on working parents. There have been examples in this thread, although I tend to think they’re from SAHMs rather than teachers.[/quote]

Ok clearly I have a comprehension fail. The PP said that the 18 month school closure was an attack on families. They in my mind were NOT talking about this thread. Saying the school closures were premeditated and an attack on families by teachers or unions is t crazy. Please reinterpret that post for me.[/quote]

Read it again: "[b]The narrative that[/b] "school isn't child care" and that parents should have had backup plans for an 18-month school closure was a ridiculous attack on working families."

The narrative used by teachers' unions and their supporters in their comments justifying the continued closures was the attack, not the closures themselves.[/quote]

Wow! 18 months? Where were schools closed to in-person instruction for that long? My DS’s ES closed mid-March 2020, so he missed 3 months that spring and then was home Sept until mid-March 2021, so another 6.5 or so. Even if I count the summer months it was nowhere close to 18 months. [/quote]

DC had a lot of schools that did not offer in-person instruction to the vast majority of students for all of the 2020-2021 school year, plus did not offer needed in-person summer school services, and were of course closed form March-June 2020. My school was one of them -- in-person was offered to just 10% of students. In my child's grade, no child received in-person instruction. And this was K and 1st, grades that do not lend themselves to distance learning. Also, though the school did open for summer school in 2021, spots were limited and my child did not get one. So my child was without in person school for approximately 18 months.

But the school did call me repeatedly to criticize me for failing to log into Canvas on "no synchronous instruction" days (there was at least one, sometimes two, every week). Can't have those absences on the school record, you see. Nevermind that the only school my child could have been present for on those days was whatever his dad and I were able to offer at home or arrange for him privately. DCPS needed me to make sure he didn't get marked absent from imaginary school.

Glad your school did better, but not all schools did.[/quote]

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