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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I attended an Ivy (though not Harvard) and counted plenty of athletes among my friends.  I assure you that the overwhelming majority of them were phenomenal students in addition to being talented athletes.  Outside of luring some top football and basketball recruits, top colleges do not generally have to lower their admission standards much, if at all, to bring in athletes.[/quote]

I went to an Ivy and wasn’t a jock sniffer and I can say that they do lower admissions standards quite substantially for athletes in all sports. [/quote]

Jock sniffer, eh?  Thanks for proving that even an education cannot instill class in some people.[/quote]

Oh I’m sorry does “people who irrationally worship and make excuses for athletes” make you feel better? [/quote]

In fact it is the hatred of college athletes and constant efforts to represent them as academically unqualified that is irrational.[/quote]

NP. I think there is one athlete-hater poster on DCUM who is obsessed beyond rationality with athletes. Their posts are exceptionally nasty and also they never listen to reason or evidence. It is rather sad. [/quote]

Read the Harvard study.  Oh wait every time that’s mentioned you get offended. [/quote]

I’m not offended. I’ve read it and unlike you, I have the education to understand it. You are the one who seems to not understand reason or evidence, however. I sort of love how you keep talking about a study you clearly can’t understand. It’s like watching a toddler have a temper tantrum. [/quote]

So explain this:

“An athlete who has an 86% probability of admission—the average rate among athletes—would have only a 0.1% chance of admission absent the athlete tip.“[/quote]

The explanation is the athletes are [i]recruited[/i]. That means the coaches go out and find them. Then the admissions committee does a “pre read” to see if the athlete is qualified academically to be at Harvard. If not, they don’t apply. So what that number means is Harvard coaches have an 86% success rate at picking athletes who are qualified to be at Harvard.[/quote]
This is a very important point that OP and her ilk are never going to acknowledge. [/quote]

And they lower their standards for those applicants. They get admitted with lower stats. That’s what you will never acknowledge. [/quote]

Not lower than the Ivy index.[/quote]

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