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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This sounds a lot like the "advice" on this forum offered to Democrats after the 2016 election. I'm sure it was intended to be oh so helpful. [/quote]
+1 Republicans know that if people go to the ballot box and remember what they’ve done to women - how many dead women do we suppose there are as a result of the forced birther politics? How many 10 year olds are pregnant right now with their rapist’s baby? - it will be a bloodbath for the GOP. Hence all the faux Democrats, i.e., Republicans, pretending that abortion isn’t an issue. It is THE issue.

You’re concerned about crime? We know for a fact that unwanted kids become criminals in a few years.

You’re concerned about inflation? Nothing more expensive than another child.

You’re concerned about tyranny? There is nothing more tyrannical than enslaving someone because of your religious beliefs.

Everything revolves around this. When women don’t have equal rights, societies fail. This isn’t some “woke” issue or however Republicans want to denigrate women. This is everything. [/quote]

I don't know. How many? Isn't how many an important measure of how important in issue this will become? How many dead women are there?[/quote]

I don’t know about the dead women part (although I do feel confident that there will be exceptions for medical issues once the dust settles on this) but one fantastic thing about this is that [b]democrats might be more motivated to keep rapists locked up forever[/b] so they can’t hurt - oops sorry, impregnate, which I guess is a lot more important to some people - more women. There’s a 9 time convicted rapist in Oregon right now (one of his victims was 13!) who is about to be released after half his sentence. [b]He should have gotten life or frankly death penalty but instead will be out soon to rape more women. [/b]Let’s focus on getting repeat criminals locked away forever and then you’ll get fence sitters to take you more seriously on abortion laws (and exceptions).[/quote]

DP. Sure, let's talk about the convicted felon, Richard Gillmore, since this is a case you have brought up as both relevant and politically charged.

Victor George Atiyeh was the governor of Oregon from 1979 to 1987, and Gillmore was convicted in '86. What was the political affiliation of Atiyeh? What was the balance of the Oregon House and Senate that passed the laws he was convicted under? Was he given the maximum sentence allowable under those laws?

"He should have gotten life or frankly death penalty." Okay, so was that the fault of the Democrats or the Republicans -- since you went there?

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I’m the PP and I’m actually critical of both parties. I think Rs should have done way more about immigration and crime when they had full control. However, the people releasing that rapist without even serving his sentence (which I agree was far too lenient to begin with) are democrats. If republicans do the same one day then I promise I’d also have a big problem with it. If there’s a red wave, I certainly hope Rs take full advantage of it to fix the crime issues in a more permanent way.

However, in the meantime I’m sorry but I can’t take you seriously when you know there’s a serial rapist who has also raped a young child who is about to be released to do it again and you think the main problem (or solution) here is abortions.[/quote]
BoTh SiDeS

One rapist vs millions of women forced to carry pregnancies they don’t want, including thousands of raped women and girls. As ably pointed out by another PP, your party (I’m sure you’re a “mOdErAtE dEm” on the internet) enables rapists and rape.

[b]Your party is lenient on rape.[/b] Do you want to read the quotes the GOP says about rape? First, you have to know that there’s “legitimate rape” that the woman’s body can just “shut down;” so they don’t believe that rape can even cause a pregnancy in the first place. That was Todd Akin, I believe. Then the GOP nom for gov in Michigan says having a baby is “healing” for rape victims. A Utah republican said that women can control the ejaculate in them and don’t get pregnant if they don’t want to.  When a woman goes public with a rape, it’s “what was she wearing” or “she was asking for it.” You guys even did that with the first ten year rape victim who had to go out of state to get an abortion, and then when that didn’t work you started blaming the rapist’s immigration status and the rape victim’s mother.

Abortion is healthcare. You think it’s a trivial nothingburger, a value signaling tool that means nothing. And when you think that, you’re advertising that women aren’t people to you. No one thinks the GOP gives a rat’s about rape because they don’t. If they did, they’d support clearing the backlog of rape kits (the GOP in Wisconsin actually voted to make it harder to clear the backlog in their state. Why? The GOP hates women! https://wisconsinexaminer.com/brief/bill-to-stop-future-backlog-of-untested-rape-kits-appears-dead/)

A vote for the GOP is a vote for fascism. It’s a vote for holding women’s head down under water. [/quote]

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