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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Do they go the extra mile?  Do they love to learn?  Are they scholarly with a natural gift for academic pursuits?  Are they engaged deeply and for a sustained period ( years) with ECs of interest?  Are they distinguished participants in those ECs?  Are they a real standout in a particular discipline?

Unless they have some hook, that is the type of candidate they are up against to gain admittance at top universities.  Top grades and scores are not enough....all the applicants admitted have that.[/quote]
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I have said in this board before that there is a difference between a high academically performing kid and a truly gifted child. Intellectual curiosity, unique interests, superior performance in a specific area need to be demonstrated.[/quote]

" Intellectual curiosity, unique interests, superior performance in a specific area need to be demonstrated." - Not ALL accepted HYPSM kids truly have these traits. Many extrapolate what they do. There is NO validation/verification done by the schools. I understand it's hard to do that for every applicant. But once they have shortlisted, they can atleast spot check one per every 100 application or something like that. Atleast the schools can verify the few things in the application that they considered for admission. This "holistic" approach truly benefits only a small percentage. There are a lot that just game the system. [/quote]

Not really.   Why would a system gamer want to go those schools anyway?[/quote]

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