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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m someone that lives in Chicago and has researched and visited Phoenix extensively as a potential retirement destination, so I personally like both places (albeit for very different reasons). I don’t have any personal connection U of Iowa or U of Arizona, but know quite a few grads from both. Here’s my take FWIW:

(1) From a pure academic standpoint, I agree that Iowa and Arizona are peer schools and, ultimately, this is going to come down to a preference between campuses, culture, climate, where one would prefer to live post-graduation, etc.

(2) That being said, I feel like there’s a lot of projecting of personal perceptions about the politics/crime in Chicago compared to Phoenix as if that is also correlated to future post-grad job opportunities - and that is soooooo totally far off that it needs to be vigorously refuted. The scope and depth of post-grad career (not just “job”) opportunities in Chicago, particularly in DCUM-favored positions like finance, consulting and tech, completely blow away Phoenix. It’s not even close. People comparing Phoenix to Chicago on that front might as well be comparing Phoenix to DC or Boston. Even to the extent that there’s job growth in Phoenix, it’s still much more “back office” positions compared to the preponderance of “front office” positions in Chicago. Once again, Chicago and Phoenix shouldn’t be compared as job markets any more than Phoenix and Des Moines.

(3) The proper regional market comparison is really Phoenix and Minneapolis. Minneapolis is a little smaller than Phoenix, but punches above its weight in corporate headquarters, which in turn means that it punches above its weight in front-line services to those corporations, such as finance, accounting, consulting, tech, etc.

(4) I’m not surprised that Iowa grads were surveyed to be slightly happier with their post-grad outcomes compared to Arizona grads due to points 2 and 3 above. The markets of Chicago and Minneapolis are REALLY great markets for college grads just out of school and Iowa sends a lot of its grads to both of those markets. As a result, Iowa would naturally punch above its weight in terms of job placement compared to its rankings.

(5) A factor that I just don’t know about is whether Arizona has a cross-state secondary pipeline to the Los Angeles market that is similar to Iowa to Chicago and Minneapolis (to the extent that OP cares). That could be a counter to what I’ve pointed out about Iowa, but I’m not familiar enough with the LA job market to have a cogent opinion on that issue.[/quote]

The University of Arizona isn’t in Phoenix, genius. You need to do more “research”.[/quote]

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