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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My issue with GT testing in mcps is that they’re not actually screening for giftedness. There is no cognitive assessment. They cherry pick some random grades from marking period 2 and use that to determine who is GT? Lol. No. That’a screening for good grades.

Gifted children aren’t necessarily straight A students. They are neurodivergent, they learn differently. Little to no repetition. Intuitive. Creative. Out of the box thinkers. Often intense, sensitive, emotional, passionate. They often struggle with the pace of classroom instruction. Being gifted is both wonderful and difficult.

According to mcps, gifted = a kid with good grades [/quote]

Maybe that's why this designation isn't actually used other than "to provide additional data." Everyone knows it's just echoing grades and test scores, but the state makes them go through the motions.

But in their defense, could you imagine MoCo parents if the county tried to identify gifted children in the original sense that PP describes? Finding a way to quantify creativity and intuition and orthogonal thinking and then defend their decision to angry parents? Ugh. [/quote]

It’s not a money issue. Until 2020 there was always a cognitive assessment used as part of the GT screening process. Now mcps is using covid as an excuse to do weird things. They invented a whole new measure “EOL district assessments”  and invited the scoring technique, which they did not share with school staff or parents. Something smells very fishy.

The issue with mcps is that they’re not transparent. Use an actual IQ test to determine giftedness. Share score reports with parents. End of discussion. [/quote]
Insanely expensive. Next![/quote]

Or return to CogAT or similar.  Is that also insanely expensive?  How expensive is it to identify conditions that end up requiring IEPs?  Is it bad to be sure to identify those needs and meet them?  If not, why is it OK to fail to be sure to identify GT needs and meet them, as well?  Using grades and tests of academic achievement in the absence of some measure of intelligence/underlying ability is pretty unreliable in this regard.[/quote]

+1000. MCPS, are you there? bring back CogAT. You are doing a disservice to kids. [/quote][/quote]

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