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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]W schools may have more money from boosters and some nicer things for athletics (but it is becoming more even), but take a look at the Wheaton High School matriculation list this year and any jealousy might disappear (it’s pretty amazing — CalTech, a couple MITs, Harvard, Stanford, Harvey Mudd, Swathmore and many more.  It is an impressive list).[/quote]

Super Jealous of Wheaton by looking at the few kids who made it though one can totally overlook the 50% FARMS rate, poor test scores, almost unmeasurable AP participation rate (2%),high dropout and suspension rate. It's a Gem [/quote]

The AP participation rate at Wheaton High School is 63%[/quote]

Participation is not the same as passing.  Of 425 graduates, 203 graduates (47.8%) achieved a passing score on AP (3+) or IB (4+). Only 71.8% took the SAT (which likely means that 28.2% of the students may not even be applying to colleges).

Even Blair is only at 52% passing (and the only reason it's that high is due to the magnet program there).

If you compare Wheaton and Blair with other High Schools, they achieve about the same AP/IB passing rates of graduating students as Quince Orchard HS.

Whitman 84.0
Wootton 78.4
Churchill 77.9
Poolesville 76.2
BCC 69.6
RM 67.0
QO 55.3
Magruder 46.7

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04757.pdf
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04602.pdf
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04234.pdf
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04201.pdf
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04406.pdf
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04125.pdf
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04152.pdf
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04510.pdf[/quote]

DP In a perfect world family income would not determine whether a child goes to college, but it does. I'm not sure why you think it's so terrible to be around kids that aren't going to college. Yes, it's a sign the school might be able to serve those kids better, but the W schools are not doing anything different, they just serve a different population.[/quote]

It's too bad we can't deeper stats on this. I remember seeing the average SAT by cohort for these schools a while ago and saw that Blair was 60+ over any W for white students which only 25-30 were magnet students of 270 kids that took the SAT.  One poster even crunched the numbers and found that even factoring for those students the average SAT was still 30 points above any W for the same cohort. Anyway, this makes me wonder how meaningful these conclusions really are because they're just looking at bulk averages without factoring for SES differences.[/quote]

MoCo doesn't track cohort by race, it does so by income. Even then it didn't break out the magnet or Cap kids which are upper SES kids plucked from a larger area for being higher SES (for the most part) and good test takers. Then the op only compared the results to whole school rankings at the Ws.

Basically they took the small handful of good test takers shipped into Blair from other schools and compared them to entire schools which were still comparable. That cherry picking doesn't mean what you think it does. And where is your pride for Blair's low scores overall and middling graduations rates? Yes the test takers bussed in do well on tests end up doing well on tests, that is why they are bussed in there so they can raise Blair out of the cellar of the performance metrics, no one is disputing that. But using those few hundred kids out of over 3000 to compare to entire school populations is dumb. Whitman has the highest test scores in all of MoCo, most AP success and college reediness. Blair is towards the bottom of those lists for the county. I get it but you're rationalizing out of inadequacy and it makes Blair parents look desperate and silly. 
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