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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am a practicing Catholic; I oppose abortion in most cases and I will not apologize for this.[/quote]

You oppose women having the ability to make the best decisions for themselves and their families?

Why do you think it’s ok for you to force your religious beliefs on others? 
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I am not interested in forcing you to be Catholic or Christian.

Catholic teaching informs my world view which in turn informs the way I understand the abortion debate.

I understand you seeing this as forcing my religion on you.  From my perspective far from it.  Views on abortion very much hinge on your view of when life begins.  A pro choice friend last week told me that a fetus is just a mass of cells.  I asked them:  really, is a fetus no different on essential quality from say, a mass on your leg?   Neither of us was going to convince the other.

I don’t see anti abortion legislation as being directed intentionally at women, but rather protecting the life of the child.  So, again, I don’t find your argument persuasive insofar as I don’t understand this issue to be about controlling or restricting women.   I do appreciate your view.

From my vantage point, the whole issue turns on when life begins and when life becomes protectible by the state.  I appreciate that this framing doesn’t make it easier to agree.   [/quote]

You are trying to FORCE your religious beliefs on others. You are infringing on others’ religious beliefs.

Where do women fit into your religious beliefs? Why are they less valuable than the fetus? What did the men who wrote your religious beliefs think about a woman’s worth? 
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I already rejected the argument that I am trying to force my religious beliefs on you.

The whole challenge turns on balancing the human dignity of the mother and the human dignity of the child.

Recognizing rights of the child does not in my view demean the mother.

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You are absolutely FORCING your religious beliefs on others.

Why should your religious beliefs take precedence over mine? 
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Maybe they shouldn’t; maybe our secular policy should be determined by our democratic process.[/quote]
Civil liberties should not be determined through a vote. That's the crux of our constitution which fundamentally limits what government can do. Also, if our democracy actually worked, this would be a no brainer as the majority of Americans support abortion access and have done so consistently for decades.[/quote]

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