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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Unless you grew up in the fundie southern baptist church (I did), you have no idea what you are talking about.  Do some research on Bill Gothard and IBLP.  Women do not have choices.  Do you see ANY women in leadership positions? Women don’t get to make decisions.  The SBC is pushing for head of household voting, ffs.  After my ex threw me down a set of stairs dislocation my shoulder, held a knife to my throat, tried to hold my head under water, held a pillow over my face…… I went to my pastor.  I was told divorce was never an option. That it was my fault for not being more submissive and sweet.

We are talking years of brainwashing. Pregnancy out of wedlock means giving the baby up to be raised by a decent family.  Then, you repent of your whorish ways and pray for forgiveness.  You won’t ever be forgiven.  Ever.

It is a cult, friends.  If you are a member of the SBC and haven’t experienced abuse, I’m so glad.  Do not discount the many who were horribly abused. [/quote]

I grew up in a Southern Baptist church and my experiences were vastly different. While I recognize that PP experienced horrific abuse and that her church knowingly allowed it, my church was completely different, and I believe the official position of the national organization would have condembed the abuse as well. While her church may have been a cult and called itself Southern Baptist, that does not mean that it was representative of Southern Baptist Churches are that the Southern Baptist Convention is a cult or condoned abuse.

In terms of gender equity, I’ll agree that growing up, traditional SB churches didn’t have women pastors or deacons, although they held other leadership positions. Even then, there were more progressive churches that did have women deacons and pastors, and I think it is much more common today.

In terms of voting, there were quarterly business meetings where anyone (member or not) could attend, and any church member (regardless of gender or age - including minors) could speak and vote.

While the church opposed extramarital sex, some of my friends as teenagers got pregnant. Some chose to keep their babies, some gave them up for adoption (there was no pressure from the church, but I have no way of knowing if they received familial pressure). In any case, the church loved the babies we got to know and continued to love the mothers who were kids themselves.

Yes, praying for forgiveness of sin was encouraged, but extramarital sex was never singled out. We were taught that we were all sinners, that we should judge not lest we be judged, and that all sins would be forgiven if we repented and asked tor forgiveness (this would include sexual sins, although those as mentioned above, weren’t singled out).

I had never heard of Bill Gothard or IBLP, so taking PP’s advice, I researched them and according to Wikipedia, IBLP is a non-denominational church and Bill Gothard is an American Christian minister.  From a very cursory search, I could find no link to either from the Southern Baptist Convention, although there may be one I missed. Again from an extremely cursory view, this organization does seem more reflective of PP’s experiences, and may indeed be a cult, just not Southern Baptist. 
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