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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have always operated with the understanding that optional pretty much means required.[/quote]

I could be wrong, but my understanding is that applications from white/Asian UMC kids in the DMV without a test score can raise a red flag (i.e., why wouldn't they submit a score unless it was weak)?  And a 32 ACT may not be stellar, but I think it's still the 97th percentile so why not submit to clear up any doubts?[/quote]

what is the basis for that understanding? please don't say DCUM.[/quote]

Logic[/quote]

that's a shorthand way of saying "pulled it out of my ass"

Stanford's common data set for 2021-22 shows that for first year students who enrolled in 2021, 12.6% submitted SAT scores and 8.7% submitted ACT scores. Are you saying that the 80% that did not are all non-white/Asian UMC kids?

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Last year, many kids didn't have a choice to submit or not. They never got the chance to take the SAT or ACT at all. [/quote]

kids how enrolled spring of 2021 were seniors in 2020-21. Pandemic hit spring of their junior year. You're telling me that 80% of these highly motivated students didn't take a single SAT/ACT prior to March of their junior  year? SAT/ACT were available in many parts of the country by fall of 2020.

And enrolled students in 2021 included a large cohort who deferred admission from the prior year, so this may include their stats, which were skew the test/no test results even more.

the bottom line is that it certainly didn't hurt people then, and you have no actual data/evidence to support the claim that only certain people have to submit test scores.

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Test Optional was prevalent then and still is.

Wake up.[/quote]

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