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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have a theory that the left has so many gaffes because the right is wealthier, more coordinated and hires professional political consulting firms at a higher frequency than the left does. [/quote]

I think what happened is that the same Russians who herded Republicans to the hateful right herded Democrats to the loony left. Democrats often have trouble presenting rational arguments for a lot of positive because a. many of us refuse to take funding or market forces seriously; and b. a lot of our positions came from a meme on Twitter and have no substance, or value. [/quote]

That sounds about right ideology and identity politics wise.

However in reality, many policy positions cast as part of the “loony left” (universal health care, sensible gun controls, livable wages and early childhood education for example) are centrist pragmatic in other rich countries. We come from two wealthy countries but have lived in DMV for many years. We love it here. Dear spouse votes conservative in home country. Yet He/ she supports livable wages, universal health care, public early education and sensible gun controls, and believes in science informed responses to climate change and the pandemic. All that is good for the private sector.

The right wing positions in US are increasingly not rational and hyper focus on fringe social issues such as transgender bathrooms, CRT in schools even though it is not taught anywhere, anti woke-ism, and weird conspiracy theories.

The left here should really get the message across that many of their policies are good for business, people and the planet.[/quote]

“sensible gun controls” = No guns for you![/quote]

Nope but thanks for proving point that right wingers here focus on fri he social issues and not bread and butter issues. [/quote]

Guns are an important issue to many. Just like abortion (as noted by the recent hysterics on the left)

Why don’t you actually tell people what “sensible gun controls” are exactly? You can discuss bread and butter issues like taxes, fuel prices, inflation and job creation separately.[/quote]

Background checks 
Requirement for license to safely use guns before being allowed to use them 
Closing loopholes where criminals  can go interstate and buy at gun markets
Required to be kept locked at home and not lying around where kids can get them 
In Switzerland, nearly all families have guns but they are required to be locked and even separated into severla'ieces to avoid crimes of passion or accidents with kids
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Shooting yesterday in SC, a 12 year old dead so far. [/quote]

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