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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hey it’s another man bashing post. Everyone climb on board! Can't wait to hear all the sad tales of how bad us men are.[/quote]

I can’t tell if you’re a troll or just incredibly stupid and ignorant of human history.[/quote]

I was trying to figure out the other day why men are so incredibly defensive when they hear words like “patriarchy” or “sexism.” I think one explanation is that all men, even good men, identify strongly with that group, and unless they have done some reflection, their minds just can’t handle the idea that the group they are in does a lot of bad things. So instead of just looking at things objectively, they deflect and say “not all men” or “but what about the bad things women do” or “you are too critical” or “if you want to make more progress you have to say things more nicely and not make men feel bad.”

I also think men just have a hard time accepting the fact that everything isn’t about them. If I point out to a man that men are trained to view women as lesser and I use some basic example, like how in order for women to be taken seriously in a business environment they are told to act more masculine because femininity is seen as undesirable, they somehow make it about themselves and their personal experience.

It’s kind of an interesting psychological phenomenon really. [/quote]

Maybe men don't like terms that indicate a clearly negative attitude towards them as a group, ever think about that?

"their minds just can’t handle the idea that the group they are in does a lot of bad things"

Now let's apply that logic to, say, African Americans. Do you think African Americans might feel "incredibly defensive" if any bad thing a member of that group does is held to reflect on them personally?

"they deflect and say not all men”

This is truly hilarious given the number of times I've heard women say "not all women"...

"I also think men just have a hard time accepting the fact that everything isn’t about them."

Again - pot, kettle, black.

"men are trained to view women as lesser"

Who "trains" men? The overwhelming influence on any young man is (a) his mom, a woman, and (b) his teachers, almost all women. These women are teaching their sons and students to view women as "lesser"? Gimme a break. I'm sure you're going to say "but, his father!" though the fact of the matter is, any father these days (especially in the DCUM demographic) has thoroughly accepted the feminist premises, is totally in thrall to his wife, and teaches his son that women are "equal". In short this idea that men are trained to view women as lesser is as preposterous as everything else you said above.[/quote]

The way it’s apparent that this is written by someone who hasn’t examined his privilege is the comparison to race. White men have been the dominant race and gender in this country since it’s founding. Someone disliking them as a group is inherently “punching up.” The dislike of African Americans as a group leads to racial violence.  White men are not in physical danger just because someone has a negative view of men as a whole.  Please stop trying to wrap yourself in victimhood.[/quote]

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