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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hey it’s another man bashing post. Everyone climb on board! Can't wait to hear all the sad tales of how bad us men are.[/quote] I can’t tell if you’re a troll or just incredibly stupid and ignorant of human history.[/quote] I was trying to figure out the other day why men are so incredibly defensive when they hear words like “patriarchy” or “sexism.” I think one explanation is that[b] all men, even good men, identify strongly with that group,[/b] and unless they have done some reflection, their minds just can’t handle the idea that the group they are in does a lot of bad things. So instead of just looking at things objectively, they deflect and say “not all men” or “but what about the bad things women do” or “you are too critical” or “if you want to make more progress you have to say things more nicely and not make men feel bad.” I also think men just have a hard time accepting the fact that everything isn’t about them. If I point out to a man that men are trained to view women as lesser and I use some basic example, like how in order for women to be taken seriously in a business environment they are told to act more masculine because femininity is seen as undesirable, they somehow make it about themselves and their personal experience. It’s kind of an interesting psychological phenomenon really. [/quote] +1 Regarding the bolded, I think this is simply what cis men are conditioned to identify with in our society since birth, along with the message to subconsciously look down on all things 'feminine'. It's probably like a native language- it's very hard to untangle yourself from that language and to look at yourself objectively speaking that language, if that's the only language you know and have been conditioned to identify with since birth. [/quote]
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