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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I feel sorry for Zhu or Beverly or whatever she wants to call herself. She didn't just abandon the country she grew up in (the US) but she also gave up her citizenship. She's stuck over there after publicly failing which even more than the U.S. is extremely nationalistic about their Olympians and representation. Sucks for her.

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Now you're being silly.

1. Zhu didn't switch to representing China to win a medal, everyone and their aunt knows she is not competitive for medal spots.  But, and it's a big but, she got to go to the Olympics and probably a few other competitions, which would have never happened had she stayed with the American team.  Probably has ample ice time, good coaches, nice choreographers, and her parents don't need to remortgage their house to pay for it.  She probably wouldn't have made it out of sectionals here!  Do you know what it costs to keep a child in elite skating? $50K a year, easily.

2.  She can retrieve her US passport whenever she feels like it.  If she relinquished her citizenship in 2018, that means she was 16 and her decisions mean diddly.  She can walk into any US embassy, show her birth certificate, and get her passport back.[/quote]

1. Wait...you're saying she wasn't good enough for the American team but the Chinese team was so bad that they took her? China has plenty of amazingly qualified and competitive athletes. Where are you getting this from?

2. Complete fallacy. She did not put her papers in a file cabinet somewhere and picked up new ones for a temporary period. She renounced her citizenship officially which means she is no longer an American citizen. Just like Eileen Gu. Has no rights to embassy protection (except as a refugee) and needs a visa like every other foreigner if she was to return. https://olympics.com/en/news/zhu-yi-california-born-chinese-figure-skater-beijing-2022[/quote]

1.  Yes! Of course! That's exactly what I'm saying! Why do you think athletes switch countries, for the pleasure of their heart? Why did Kristin Fraser, a Palo Alto girl, represent Azerbaijan? Because there was no chance for her, zero, to ever be competitive for a Worlds or Olympics berth in the US. Azerbaijan has no ice dancers to speak of, alors, enter Ms. Fraser.  Collect Azeri passport, go straight to the Olympics.  Wake up! Alyona Savchenko, a decorated pairs skater for Germany, who couldn't find a good enough partner in the Ukraine but Germany found some bodies?  Switcheroo.

Now to Miss Zhu.  China may have plenty of qualified athletes but their ladies field is thin.  In Zhu's calculus, if she place in top three at Chinese nationals, that's good! That's a real shot at international competitions, at the real thing.  In the US? Nah. The field is too deep.  Where am I getting this from? Only from watching figure skating over the last twenty years and seeing the same story over and over again.  This is how I know you're only a casual viewer of figure skating - you seem so surprised by this all.

Tell me, did you feel just as enraged about America speed-walking Tanith Belbin's application for the US citizenship so that she can represent the US at the Olympics? [/quote]

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