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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]To all the posters sharing issues w/ vaginal birth complications….maybe that’s how it is supposed to be? I mean, I don’t understand how[b] all of a sudden natural birth has to many complications for us as as a species.[/b] Have babies gotten to large, has something changed in our bodies. [/quote]

I say this gently, but: this is not sudden.  Childbirth was the #1 cause of death for women for a very long time.  This is why the "interventions are evil" crowd seem idealistic to me; childbirth is incredibly dangerous.  It always has been.  It has to do with bipedalism, not any recent change in our bodies.[/quote]

Then it’s great that we have lots of interventional methods, but for pelvic floor issues,prolapsing, tears, if these things have always been as such, doesn’t; it make more sense to focus on preventative measures  that don’t include major surgery (c-section). Either that, or we need to completely overhaul woman’s health so that all of these secondary issues are covered by insurance, more studies for treatments, increased maternity leave, etc. I don’t think intervention is but the idea that intervention is the norm also seems like a skewed approach to me. [/quote]

The peer reviewed research says c-section should [b]not[/b] be used to avoid prolapse but there not what that particular poster is selling.  Using an intervention that raises the mothers risk of death seven fold to avoid prolapse seems extreme to me, but that’s also because I view the situation not only as the mother of the child I’m carrying,  but also the mother of the child at home. I owe it to her to get her mother back home to her. [/quote]

Really, according to who? Research done by men who dismiss prolapse as just a quality of life issue? The connection between POP and vaginal birth is well established.

“Through physical exams and questionnaires to assess symptoms of pelvic floor disorders, Handa and her colleagues discovered that the primary factor that affects the risk of prolapse is a single vaginal delivery—with chances dramatically increased with the use of forceps or vacuum.”

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/articles/to-prevent-pelvic-organ-prolapse

There are over 300,000 prolapse surgeries performed in the US every year! And more than 3.3 million women living with prolapse. Why shouldn’t women be educated about this and their individual risk factors and given a choice for how they want to deliver? Mother Nature is a cruel B and just because vaginal childbirth is natural does not mean we should not explore alternatives that do not permanently injure a larger percentage of those who experience it. I mean, cancer is natural as well but you still treat it.

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No one isn’t educated about this— prolapse isn’t a secret and most women around here at least are educated about pelvic floor injury. The reason people don’t rush to have a c-section to prevent it is that 1. It doesn’t always prevent ir, as your research will show you and 2. Most of us would rather be alive to care for our babies even if that means needing pelvic floor PT

And before you dismiss the increased maternal mortality figures remember that not everyone posting here is white.[/quote]

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