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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You people watch way too many movies and I’m guessing a lot of you are typical first or second gen strivers living in DMV who’ve clearly never attended an Ivy. They’re not full of rich and pretty old money wasps who can’t wait to invite your unwashed lower rung teen into their high caste lifestyle. And an Ivy BA is not a golden ticket to a plum gig making a boatload of money.

Notre Dame’s campus culture isn’t perfect, but it’s the purest and most pleasant in the top 30 or so, that’s for sure. For a very smart Catholic kid, there isn’t a better place to spend age 18 to 22 at — making friends for life and likely meeting a spouse along the way.[/quote]
Good for you, isn't for my kid but great for many.  I am perplexed at how so many great Universities are maligned on this site. [/quote]
I didn't see anyone maligning it, just claiming other schools are stronger and it's not everyone's dream.  There's not been a single poster that hasn't said Notre Dame is a good school or that has maligned it in any way.  It's just some posters think that it is "hating" if they don't bow down to the ND boosters' vision of the extreme greatness of the school.  Which is of course amusing--because it plays to a bit of the stereotype of the school-- so it gets egged on.[/quote]
Except here’s the thing.  There may be 15 or so universities in the US that are objectively better at the undergraduate level, but there are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds that aren’t.  So [b]I guess it all comes down to what one’s definition of “great” is[/b].  I’d argue that a school with so few peers is pretty damned great.    [/quote]
This is where you get weird though--Look, Rice University is above ND in the USNWR. Maybe you don't value that rating, but maybe others do.  But you never hear people griping because others are just not praising Rice quite enough, don't think it's great.  They might react if someone said it's not a good school, they might extoll its good qualities but they don't think others are "haters" because they don't love it as much as they do.  They know it's a good school and don't need others' praise or see maligning where there isn't any.  They accept someone might not want to live in Houston TX to go to their school or just not be that into it. 
Substitute Rice for: Washington University,  Vanderbilt, UCLA, Emory etc.   [/quote]
WashU is a little cult-y, too, but agree it can't compete with ND in that regard. (And as for your other examples, full agree.)[/quote]

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