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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Guns should be regulated the same way we do cars and driving.

1. Age and health requirements (i.e. not blind, mentally ill, etc) for owning and/or operating a gun
2. Mandatory training
3. Probationary period during training
4. Mandatory licensing requirement with periodic renewal that also checks to ensure owner/operator of the gun still meets legal and health requirements
5. Mandatory registration of guns 
6. Mandatory title transfer process if gun changes hands that includes mandatory background check of recipient
7. Insurance requirement to cover liability costs
8. Mandatory periodic inspection of the gun to ensure it is still safe to operate, has not been illegally modified, and is still in the registered owner's possession.

We do this for cars and it does not impede law abiding drivers.  As such it cannot be credibly argued that this would be an infringement on lawful gun owners' rights.[/quote]

Second amendment advocates believe that license requirements will be used to ban private ownership, and their fears are most likely warranted based on the evidence.  Cities with "may issue" license requirements made it so difficult to obtain permits that ordinary citizens could not possess or carry weapons.  SCOTUS is about to rule on this issue in NYC.  The Heller case addressed similar problems in DC.

I think at this point it would take a Constitutional amendment to layout a clear individual right to gun ownership for self-defense purposes in return for the licensure, insurance, and training requirements.  That would be a fair trade in my opinion.  But of course many people on both sides make a lot of $$$ politicizing the issue and don't want the gravy train to stop.
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A fair trade would be agreeing to something like that but also having minimum prison sentences of 50 years for all violent crimes committed with a firearm. If you’re going to make it harder for law abiding citizens to protect themselves then we should at least put all of our criminals away for life. No early releases, no pleading down, no exceptions.[/quote]

The majority of "violent crimes committed with a firearm" are committed by black men under the age of 30.  If an 18 year old sticks up a convenience store in Chicago with a handgun, you'd effectively be giving them a life sentence.  As bad as crime is in certain places, I'm not sure the country would support that.[/quote]

I for one would have no problem at all with that.  I don't care what color they are.  If they are robbing people at gunpoint I want them off the streets.  Robbing a convenience store with a gun is not some minor indiscretion.  [/quote]

I’m not sure what the PP was referring to. I have absolutely no problem giving an 18 year old a life sentence for robbing a convenience store. I really don’t think most of America would either. It’s not like you can do it by accident.

The only reason criminals do these things is because they know the consequences aren’t that bad and so they decide to take the risk. Make it so that they can’t be released for 50 years and watch how fast the crime rate goes down.

And I couldn’t care less what color they are. And I’m not sure why you would either. Even if it’s true that you’d mostly be putting young black men behind bars, why is that a bad thing? You think there won’t still be a lot of nice young black men left? You think that a whole bunch of black women and especially black children won’t benefit greatly by having gangs and other criminals removed from their streets?[/quote]

Agree.  Tim Maine’s Project Exile is a good start.

And Youngkin made Project Exile part of his platform.[/quote]

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