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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There seem to be two views of TJ: 1) it is the best STEM school in the U.S. that should have admissions based on a competitive process to figure out who is the best of the best and 2) a STEM magnate program that should serve all communities and their hard working STEM-focused students with some extra consideration of experience factors that may make their classroom achievements appear less stellar than certain other group.  I think a lottery is a necessity at this point to remove the stigma or resentment from certain groups regarding students from other groups that were viewed as given an unwarranted weighting to their application. This way, everyone that gets in does not know if they would have gotten in under the old criteria and will just feel lucky to have won the lottery to such a great school.  Either that or shut it down.  [b]This current model is unsustainable in the long run based on the stigma[/b] and the old model was flawed to the extent it favored those who could afford prep and elaborate extra curriculars.  I have nothing against hard working, affluent children, but I can't deny that the old system had barriers to entry that appear to high for less fortunate children.   [/quote]

I don't agree with this. You make a lot of strong points and seem to have a fair command of the situation, but the reality on the ground at TJ so far appears to be that the new class has been admitted and accepted by their peers and are having a positive initial experience, and that should only continue to get stronger as further new classes are admitted under similar processes. There may be trolls on these boards and others who are insistent on creating a "stigma" of some sort, but in reality it has always been the case that students from underrepresented groups at TJ have been viewed as "affirmative action admits" even when no such thing existed.

I am certain that there will be tweaks around the margins of the admissions process in the next several years, but the reality of it is that this process mirrors fairly closely what goes on already at nearly every elite university in America.[/quote]

Because there was affirmative action admits the stigma attached.  Which is a huge disservice to those URM that did not need that help of a racial component to admissions.  Huge disservice.  [/quote]

See.... This statement betrays the problematic viewpoint with which so many people interact with the whole TJ thing.

The previous poster here believes that the negatives of having some sort of invented "stigma" associated with being admitted to TJ under the current process outweighs the positives of, you know, [i]getting a TJ education relative to their other options[/i].

What this tells you is that to this poster (and I'm sure to many, many others), the value of being admitted to TJ was [b]in the status of being *chosen*, not in the actual education they would receive[/b].

For the entirety of TJ's existence, plenty of people have assumed that some form of affirmative action existed, and it only did for a very brief period in the late '90s - when, by the way, TJ was a supermajority WHITE school. So there have always been such whispers going around the school that any Black or Hispanic student admitted was a "diversity admit".

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