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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Let’s move on!  Demographic make up seems to be working for the class of 2025.  All reports so far indicate a successful school year is underway.[/quote]

ONE WEEK![/quote]

Long before this admissions change, the first week or two for TJ freshmen was all about ice breakers and orientation.  Not sure why that PP thinks conclusions can be drawn already (except she has an agenda to push).[/quote]

No conclusions can be drawn already, and the ones that are there to be drawn will be extremely difficult to measure. Making things worse is the fact that families insist on cornering the market on any type of phrasing that can be used to signify an improvement in the environment as "racist" or "dog-whistles" when the problems that have existed at TJ long predate the Asian majority.

For some reason, the status quo crowd seems to want to make all of the problems at TJ about Asians instead of about a flawed admissions process that hadn't REALLY changed that much in 30 years and was well behind the curve with respect to elite educational institutions - as well as a principal who actively didn't do anything to deal with the problems that had arisen at his school that he remade in his own image.

It's a cute strategy that you can probably leverage for the Oppression Olympics, but it's disingenuous and doesn't do much for your public perception.[/quote]

"Didn't do anything to deal with the problems" - what exactly was the problem?  Too many Asians?  It's the #1 high school in the country.  Really hard to say they weren't doing a good job.[/quote]

The problem was too many kids who pinned their entire self-worth on how many awards they won, how many APs they took, and - worst of all - what colleges they did or didn't get into. It's not a good thing when half the senior class every year is disappointed in their college destination, and the problem was a combination of unrealistic expectations and poor strategic choices on how to get there.

And again - it had nothing to do with the proportion of Asian students at the school. It had everything to do with a flawed admissions process that gave kids a backwards idea of, among other things, how to get into a school.[/quote]

Maybe the problem is that all the seniors are applying to the same state colleges... if they expand their vision beyond group think and apply to the many elite/highly rated schools around the country, they wouldn't have a problem with admissions, (provided they had good grades at TJ).

But if all they want to do is go to UVA or VT or some other in state school, clearly no place can afford to admit most of the TJ graduating class. Also, going to TJ and working hard there to aspire for UVA is kind of self defeating thinking. Someone from TJ going to one of these schools wouldn't be challenged for at least the first 2 years of college classes. If they worked so hard through high school, why shoot for local when they can find many similarly challenging programs elsewhere?[/quote]

That’s…. just not true or relevant. TJ students apply in huge numbers to the highest rated schools in the country, and get in at much lower rates than one would expect (and than they expect) given the prestige of TJ. Don’t betray your ignorance by making dumb statements like that.[/quote]

You're missing the point that there are way more great colleges across the US than what the typical TJ student seems to be striving for. Of course not many will get into the few MITs with single digit acceptance rates. That doesn't mean TJ students with good grades don't have favorable chances of getting into many other great schools which do not include 'VA' in them. They need to cast the net a bit wider. There are many good schools which very few TJ students apply to.[/quote]

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