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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Another prof here: I will pass along that I have had to turn down students who have asked for references or recommendations, particularly when they neither participated in class nor came to office hours.  When you don't really know the student beyond their performance on assignments or exams, it's impossible to write an assessment with the level of detail that some grad programs or employers want.
 
IMO, it's the average student who really benefits by using office hours.[/quote]

Nobody cares.  [b]Jobs and / or grad school admissions don’t turn on professor recommendations. [/b]  [/quote]

That is true sometimes, but often prof recommendations make a world of difference.  Really depends on the field and the type of job, don't you think?  [/quote]

I guess.  But I know of precisely no one where it has mattered.  And everyone I know has a job so . . .[/quote]

Unless you have been sitting in on everyone's admissions or hiring committees, you have no idea what has mattered.[/quote]

How could a recommendation letter matter if the job application doesn’t ask for one?  [/quote]

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