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It is part of the problem because parents are aiming for these classes so that their kids can apply for TJ. Then the kids take the test prep classes so that they can do well on the test. [b]They are accepted into TJ and end up not having the fundamentals that they really need[/b], mainly because they were pushed ahead by their parents with the goal of getting accepted at TJ.

There is a balance between supporting your kids interests and strengths and pushing to advance your kid. I think many people are worried that the use of Mathnasium and Kumon and other programs are not helping kids if it is giving the appearance of being advanced when they are not. We did AoPS this year with our Third grader and I was impressed with the class. I don't know if they would tell a parent that their kid needed to be in a lower grade or would not do well in the program. [b]There were a couple of kids who I heard the Teacher suggest they should stay online after class so that they could go over the material some more because the child was not understanding the material.[/b] I thought that was a good thing for the child but I wonder what they tell the parents at the end of the year since it was the same kids over the course of the year.

The ideal is that kids are allowed to advance at a pace that makes sense for them as long as they have really learned the material. [/quote]

For the first bolded, the obvious answer is for FCPS to develop a math test that more accurately pinpoints just how well the kid understands the math.  IIRC, Vern Williams offered to write one for TJ admissions, but FCPS didn't want that type of math test.  Once the kids are in TJ, I'm pretty sure they're retested for math placement, and kids who think they belong in pre-calc are recommended to redo Algebra II.

For the second bolded, AoPS absolutely will hold kids back if they don't get high enough grades in the class.  Several kids in my kid's AoPS Algebra class were taking the class for the second time, since they didn't do well enough the first time through.  [/quote]

Good to know about AoPS. I appreciated that they did an evaluation of DS skills before he joined the class and how the classes were run. I thought it was great that the Teacher worked with students after class to make sure that they were grasping the concepts. I thought the entire class was well run and structured. I think that it is a good thing that they don't progress kids until they understand the material. I hope that parents can accept that with good grace and understand it is in their kids best interest. [/quote]

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