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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]No one has said the baby's rights shift to 100 percent or that home birth be outlawed. You aren't discussing this in good faith.

You also seem to think we'll be scared by the difficult line-drawing problem into accepting the infant has zero rights. But you can't seriously think we aren't all aware of the line drawing problem. It is the inherent problem in reproductive rights and makes it all harder than examples like giving a kidney to someone else. [/quote]

Actually both of those arguments have been made in this thread:

[quote=12/13/2011 17:59]absolutely--the right of a term/viable baby to have a reasonable chance of surviving delivery should absolutely, 100% trump the rights of a woman to decide what type of delivery she has.[/quote]

[quote=12/14/2011 10:23]I am suprised that home birthing hasn't been outlawed[/quote]

And I'm not saying the infant has zero rights, or that there is some difficult line to draw here that we are afraid of.  In fact, it doesn't matter where you draw the personhood line: even a belief that life begins at conception and that a day-old fetus has full personhood is still compatible with saying that you can't force a mother to undergo a medical procedure against her will for the benefit of her child, another full person.  A child in need of a kidney clearly has full personhood rights, yet you still can't force that child's mother to donate the needed kidney.  The needs of one do not trump the rights of the other to determine their OWN medical care.

If anything I would think that the kidney example is the harder one--because not donating is almost certain death for the child, whereas a "reckless" labor & delivery only carries a somewhat higher risk of death.[/quote]

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