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I agree it seems to really be this odd whirlpool of doing it for attention. I have one niece and one goddaughter who are both in middle school and want to use they and them as pronouns. Their parents comply, and are very hopeful it’s a phase. My daughter is three, and I sincerely hope in another 10 years things have changed so I don’t have to deal with this trend. [b]I’d gladly take the goth trend I put my mother through when I was 12 over this ridiculousness any day.[/b][/quote]

NP here, and an "elder millennial" that has always felt I straddle the generational divide of Gen Xers (growing up in a pre-internet world) and Millennials.

I vividly remember "trying on identities" when I was a pre-teen/HSer as many people equate the NB movement to (attention seeking, exploratory, hopefully a phase) but why is NB worse than a goth identity?  I really clung to the emo culture in HS and depression, self-harm, sadness etc were all glorified.  Now as an adult, I see how harmful that identity was to my development and I am working to un-do it.  So personally, if my child would rather experiment with more "positive" identity play with NB, body acceptance, radical self love .... that seems better to me than goth/emo.[/quote]

Why do we have to label it.  I agree with a lot of what you wrote and understand not fitting into the stereotypical girl identity but why can't that just be it - we are different, even the girly girls.  Why does being different require us to relabel ourselves?  I want to still be a woman but sometimes really want a penis, hate dresses, get annoyed by overly emotional women, work in a male field but love doing my hair without labeling myself as something other than a woman.[/quote]

Elder Millennial again  :lol:

But why is the label NB more upsetting to you than the label of "goth," "prep," "stoner," "jock" ... etc.  All of those labels were widely used without issue in the 80s and 90s, but it's just a new take on young people finding their identity. [/quote]

This version demands changes to the language I use, for one.  It’s brought demands to the rest of society that those other labels didn’t.  Additionally, the medicalization of the normal identity exploration that occurs during the teenage years is incredibly disturbing and will have ramifications for years to come.  [/quote]

+1 NP Middle school kids are getting sucked into this via social media—or access to social media via friends—and it sounds fine enough in the beginning, when they think they’re just being super accepting and open-minded. It can spiral fast though, and suddenly girls are looking into binding their chests. And anyone who questions it is automatically transphobic. It’s like they’re brainwashed. Watching a few of my DD’s friends get into this now and just trying desperately to keep my own child grounded in the real world.[/quote]

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