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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I mean, let me expand: Stanford is just as good as any Ivy League school. Why is it not in the Ivy League? Because it’s stupid for a CA school to be in an athletic conference with East Coast schools. Plus, Stanford wants to play FBS football. Hence, they’re in the PAC-12. [/quote] You keep making the opposite point of the one you think you are. Say “Ivy League college” to the next 10 people you meet and ask them what it means. Not one will reference sports primarily. Then say “PAC 12” to the next 10. Majority won’t know, but those that do will ONLY reference sports. It has taken a meaning beyond its original one. You’re like the guy arguing that drugstore brand cotton swabs shouldn’t be referred to as Q-tips. Or that tomatoes shouldn’t be referred to as a vegetable. Both technically true, but petulant, stupid and irrelevant.[/quote] My point is that [b]you all think the Ivy League is some designation that indicates the schools are better than any other school in the country[/b]. You think it means something. It doesn’t. The ties that bind those schools together have nothing to do with merit. [/quote] You just made a claim, bonded above, which is untrue. I am not the only poster arguing but I did not make that claim. Who did? My argument is the dismissive “The Ivy League is just a sports league” canard is a tired, and false, old bit of ignorance. It means more than that to the schools themselves and to the world in general. Not to you — which is fine. But that doesn’t make it true overall.[/quote] Ok so what? Stanford, MIT, CalTech ... these schools haven’t suffered one iota in terms of prestige because they’re not in the Ivy League. Being in the Ivy League confers some prestige, but not being in the Ivy League doesn’t preclude a school from being prestigious. Why? Because it’s not a designation that is conferred on any school that attains a certain level of achievement. That’s why the athletic league definition matters. I understand it’s often considered a prestigious title, but the existence of other equally prestigious, non-Ivy League schools, is proof positive that the Ivy League is simply a group of excellent schools that *happen* to be in a group together.[/quote] You keep typing irrelevant stuff, so I am gonna stop arguing with you as it is futile. You know that statement is dumb. You keep wielding it anyway. You be you.[/quote] Lol ok. Keep on believing in the magic of the Ivy League. [/quote] Again, I said no such thing. You lack basic comprehension abilities. Hence the futility.[/quote]
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