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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I wonder what they do with the infamous rape/nonconsensual scene. [/quote] That’s not rape. I read the Vox article, and I found it troubling to equate the scene with rape. And, the whole storyline is irrational. “I love you so deeply, but I won’t sleep with you anymore.” Riiiiiiiight.[/quote] What rape scene? There wasn’t one in the book.[/quote] It might be over the top to call it rape but people are referring to the scene where Daphne gets Simon to finish inside of her when she suspects he doesn’t want to. [/quote] I don’t get the rape reference either. They were having consensual sex...she made him finish in her instead of on the bed. It’s definitely deceptive but not rape. [/quote] Yeah I mean if the genders were reversed I think I’d feel the same way. If you just sort of whisper mutter “wait” at the very end, is that really revoking consent? But I think she was in the wrong and should have apologized for it. It bothered me that it was never portrayed as a bad thing. Or maybe I’m missing something. [/quote] I agree with you.[/quote] Im in the middle of this plot line. I think I’m on episode 5/6...she just got her period. I feel like this was definitely bad but I mean...they are mad at each other for like two whole episodes at this point. It’s causing marital discord and he’s not apologizing either. I’m assuming he comes around based on what this show is (delightful trashy romance) but it seems definitely like it’s portrayed badly. He’s furious! I will say that one thing that mitigates her guilt, to me, is that[b] she wasn’t even fully aware what she was doing was a gotcha until it happened[/b]. Her extreme naïveté and lack of concrete knowledge abdicates her of a lot of responsibility. Like the Duke was an idiot, of course there would be whoopsies when you’re banging that much. Like through the lens of a perfectly experienced and knowledgeable 2020 woman that is super super screwed up. Through the lens of a teenager who found out what a man looks like without pants two weeks ago, that is different. I think Marina’s scheme was much more ethically problematic.[/quote] She knew what she was doing. She asked her lady maid to explain to her in detail how pregnancies happen. She intentionally positioned herself in a way that he would not be able to withdraw. She should have apologized for this act. He was also wrong for not being honest with her about having kids.[/quote]
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