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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s so sad how strongly you will all defend alcohol to your deaths, just to justify your own use. You don’t think smoking was also once such a thing? [/quote]

Well alcohol has been around for much of human history, while chemical filled cigarettes were mostly an invention of the 20th century. But keep plugging away at those false equivalencies. [/quote]

Yeah, Heroin PP is stretching it. I do appreciate the criticism of how engrained alcohol consumption is to American culture, and I personally don't participate in or like "mommy juice" or sports-binge-drinking culture and I don't find it cute.  But, I think the inclination to demonize alcohol to the degree PP does is problematic -- it makes people less likely to talk about their drinking, and driving it underground is not a good thing. No one likes sanctimony. One can simultaneously recognize that many people drink too much but dismiss their drinking as stress relief or normal, but also recognize that many people don't do that. [/quote]

This is, by far, the most reasonable and correct response in this insane thread. A lot of drinking culture in this country is problematic. A lot of people drink occasionally and have no issues with alcohol dependency. Both things can be true at the same time. [/quote]

I’m the “heroin PP” and I actually done demonize alcohol, but they point is - alcohol is far too elevated as some kind of miracle substance and we need to call that out. It’s actually not healthy, or safe, and there is a comfort with it that belies the actual hazards that very few people want to acknowledge. It’s a pervasive hazard in our society, and it’s sad how many people are on this thread saying “it’s fine!”.

The thing is “drinking normally” isn’t really even a thing. A drink a day by health standards is already too much per medical experts Ike the CDC. A drink a day is no longer “occasionally”. [/quote]

Comparing alcohol to heroin is demonizing it. What on earth did you think you were doing?

Also, most people I know drink 1 drink a night or 1-2 drinks a few times a week. None of them are part of wine mom culture. No one thinks alcohol is a cure or miracle elixir. I don't know anyone like that. Perhaps in your orbit maybe. But you are extrapolating you're PERSONAL experience and making sweeping judgments, comparing alcohol drinkers to heroin addicted and then playing dumb when people get upset and saying "well of course you're upset, you're a defensive ALCOHOLiC". Just stop. [/quote]

Hit a nerve much? C’mon folks, this is easy for such a numbers based board.

What does the CDC say about a drink a day for women? 
What is considered a heavy drinker? What percentage of the population has a drink a day or more? What are the health benefits of alcohol? What are the Health risks of alcohol? What percentage of illness is attributed to alcohol? How many deaths a year are related to alcohol? How many hospitalizations? What is the number one thing that women stay away from when pregnant because they’re fearful for the effects of it on their fetus? How addictive is alcohol, and what is the social damage done by it?

I don’t need to make this personal. Science backed me once I cared enough to put down the bottle and open my eyes.

Oh yeah, and no one was worried much about the opioid crisis until it became a crisis. So spare me the shock over comparing alcohol to heroin. Thing is, there is no gateway drug to the wine aisle at the grocery store. [/quote]

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