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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Woman here, I have read some websites for MGTOW/red pill because I thought the idea was interesting, I wanted to know what it was about.  Some of the ideas I agreed with and some I thought were extreme.

I completely agree with the guy moving the furniture.  What I read from the websites was the same idea.  They didn't want more friends, they have friends, what they wanted was a romantic/sexual relationship so in their mind, why would they move a females furniture if she isn't interested in them.  Today we are fighting for equality so in their mind, the female can pay movers or get family to help.  The female is using her looks to use these males and they are simply saying enough and I think that is fair enough.

They talk about hypergamy - marrying or sleeping someone of a superior background.  Their idea from what I read is that most women want to marry a successful man and lets face it, look at this forum, its true.  So many posts about getting a rich husband, successful husband.  Their opinion seems to be that even if a woman herself isn't successful she still expects her boyfriend/husband to be successful, so where is the personal responsibility of the female.

They feel unappreciated in society and talk about the fact that men have built societies, they are the inventors, have built the infrastructure etc.  I agree with that but women have created the people to be that society it's built for.

What I do agree with is that a lot of it was simply making their own lives better, doing what they want and not letting a female come along and distract them from that.  A lot of them seemed to be there after a really messy divorce and they had terrible stories of how they were treated and left destitute.  I think in part some of the ideas are simply to protect themselves so it doesn't happen again.  I have seen male friends end a marriage like this so agree in putting those boundaries in place.

I also saw that some of the extreme ideas did show a hatred toward feminism and females and extreme misogyny such as I read one reply that wanted life to go back to where women couldn't vote or work however we also have radical feminists so I guess it evens out.  They seem to have a thing with the fact that females sleep around now however this is something women have been putting up with from men for centauries so well I don't have much sympathy on that one.

I am sure this is a basic view, I couldn't be bothered spending too much time on it.  I think females are viewed as being innocent in nature when in actual fact a lot aren't and there is a lot of toxic behaviour in females, for some reason society isn't ready to acknowledge that.[/quote]

You pass for being a woman who was casually interested in redpill about as well as my toaster passes as being a human. "Females" is not a word women use to describe women. The idea that society doesn't acknowledge that women can be awful is not something anyone who isn't deeply steeped in this stuff could say without laughing. Obviously, women can be awful. Obviously, if your only interest in someone is sleeping with them, you should not pretend to be their friend. Really, for their sake as much as for yours - the idea that the only person getting hurt when you pretend to be her friend is you is so lacking in empathy. Alimony is barely a thing, so the money your "friends" are paying after a divorce is going to support their kids - but hey, you're certainly free next time to partner with someone who makes a more similar income to you. It might mean making certain other trade-offs that you aren't interested in making - or are we only interrogating the romantic choices that women make here?

Oh, but you think the guys who believe women (sorry, "females") shouldn't vote are too extreme? Whoah, how moderate and reasonable of you.

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I have no dog in this fight but alimony is most definitely a thing. [/quote]

About one in ten divorces result in alimony. Most of that is not extended. Women are more likely to be impoverished post-divorce than men. Alimony is a thing, but "men being left destitute" to pay for their ex's lifestyle is a thing in a way that "being hit by lightning" is a thing. [/quote]

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