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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Another poster on the pet peeve thread mentioned that it might be better to spin off this current debate of gifted issues and I agree.

I think my main issue with the the Gifted vs Profoundly Gifted arguments that take place on DCUM is that so many people are under the impression that DC area privates are FILLED with "run of the mill" gifted kids with IQ's around 130 to 140.  Because of this untrue belief they feel like these kids (the ones that are actually 98 percentile and higher) are served appropriately is said schools.  This is not true and these kids needs aren't usually met with the standard curriculum.  There are a few lucky ones with talented teachers who can find ways to do it.  But the rest of them are usually underchallenged and allowed to coast in the lower grades.  It is true that the DC area has a higher percentage of gifted kids than elsewhere in the country but this does not equate to classes full of them in our schools.

I've also heard that ERBs in top DC privates in lower grades usually rank the top performers around the 80th percentile which equates to an IQ around 115 to 120 tops. Early WPPSI scores used in PK & K admissions are unreliable at that age and influenced by enrichment by parents.  ERBs are far more accurate.

A 130 to 140 IQ child (98th & 99th percentile) is far different from a typical bright and motivated child in a DC private.  
Here is an idea of what children with these scores are actually doing in the early years.

3.Level Three
They know what adults are telling or asking them by six months. You say a toy, pet, or another person, and they will look for it.
By the time they are barely 12 months old, they can get family members to do what they want before they are actually talking.
By two years, many like 35+ piece puzzles, memorize favorite books, and know the entire alphabet - in or out of order!  
By three years old, they talk constantly, and skip count, count backwards, and do simple adding and subtracting because they like to. They love to print letters and numbers, too.
They ask you to teach them to read before five years, and many figure out how to multiply, divide, and do some fractions soon thereafter.
Most of these children are a full two to five years beyond grade level by age six and find school too slow.
There are one or two Level Three children in every 100 in the average school.  They are rarely in the same elementary class and can feel very, very lonely.

So when I am referring to gifted kids I am not referring to profoundly gifted kids.  They are such a rare thing that many teachers will never encounter such a child.

The info above is from Deborah Ruf, PhD who is an expert in gifted education.  She has a book titled, "5 Levels of Giftedness - School Issues and Educational Options".

Here is the website that I took the above information from.

http://talentigniter.com/ruf-estimates

gifted children don't ask you to teach them to read, they simply teach themselves at about age 3-4.

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I didn't, and tested over 150 on three IQ tests.[/quote]

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