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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Yes, the experience is night and day different depending on who you work for. Also, it is true that some people are very good at the job. It is perfect for a very specific type of person. That is not the norm. Most people struggle and hate it. So, either your friends are really well suited for the job and are doing fine or they work for really awesome people, or both.

Upper management at the Board is rotten to the core and routinely plays games with employees. However, there are a few good GS-15 supervisors and judges at the Board who try to make their employees’ lives easier. The attorneys under them generally find the job to be tolerable. But, even these employees face the constant threat of termination due to the high production standard.[/quote]

I understand.  However, I have been trying to get my two friends (casual friends) to consider applying to my agency for years as writing attorney positions come available, and they won't consider a move.  We also have telework and a production system that is high, but we get time subtracted from the quota for leave, holidays, general office admin work etc.  They won't consider a move, so something about the job must be right for them.[/quote]

It sounds like you're at SSA or HHS DAB. Your friends probably don't want to move to SSA or DAB because the decision writer jobs over there only go up to GS-12. Attorney positions at the Board go up to GS-14. Most people don't want to move to SSA or DAB once they reach the GS-14 level, as they would need to downgrade to a GS-12 level. With regard to the quota, while the Board has not historically taken into account leave, holidays, general office admin work etc., this has not been the case since FY17. The Board does indeed subtract leave, holidays, general office admin work etc. from the quota.  But, even the prorated quota is still much too high for most attorneys to complete within a 40 hour work week, hence the reason why many Board attorneys work unpaid overtime.[/quote]

This.  Yes, the prorate for leave, because they're required to do so by the Union contract.  But they increased the quota by about 30 percent so its all a smokescreen.  People still work on weekends and holidays and at night just to keep their head above water.  If you have family responsibilities you can expect no sympathy from the Board and you will be working every minute of the day when you're not sleeping or taking care of your family.  This is not a 40 hour a week job.  It takes closer to 50-60 hours a week to do the job right unless you have a bunch of really easy cases or are otherwise taking shortcuts. [/quote]

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