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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Honest question

What's the draw for socioeconomically integrated schools

Most neighborhoods aren't integrated socioeconomically

People are making choices

People are understandably complaining/upset with the lack of focus on kids[/quote]

and I'll add once you start tracking classes are generally segregated by class which is also highly correlated to race

[b]there have been no repeat 0 school systems that have made any dent in the achievement gap[/b]

any other solutions out there?[/quote]

Yes, there have.  Dedicated teachers, phonics based curriculums.  There are success stories.

Anyway, all of these are grade school complaints.  High schools serve a variety of levels.  [/quote]

links please to any district[/quote]
DP.. I was wondering the same thing.  MA, the state with the best education, also has a chronic and persistent achievement gap that they have not been able to address.

I think it's a laudable goal to try to close the gap, but it's going to be a never ending battle because poverty is a never ending battle.[/quote]

It's a housing/zoning issue not an education issue.  I'm not the biggest fan of affordable housing but it helps to avoid pockets of poverty along with less restrictive zoning so you can have SFH with TH and apartment complexes and the associated different SES levels in the same general area.

I dabble in education policy and no one has ever shown me where the achievement gap has actually closed[/quote]
Honestly, though, moving some lower income kids to rich schools is not really going to close the achievement gap as a whole. It will just mask it from a school level.

Having stated that however, I do think there is some benefit for lower income kids to go to the wealthier schools. It may not close the achievement gap by much, but I think there are some studies that show that low income kids can do a bit better in schools with less than a 20% FARMS rate.  If you look at MCPS numbers, lower income kids do score a bit better in the wealthier schools than in the very poor schools. [/quote]

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