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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]No one said that.
What they said was it resulted in whites and Asians from WJ competing with whites and Asians from Whitman and BCC for CES spots - leaving Barnsley for more diverse populations.[/quote]

Did the Barnsley CES program stay the same size, so that it's now just drawing from a smaller (and "more diverse") set of ES's - i.e., more spots for the ES schools that remained?  And why would the person making that assertion even care about it unless they felt that it was now harder for students at WJ-cluster ES's to get into a CES program?  If the same 28 kids from the WJ cluster who would have been Barnsley are now at CCES, what's the difference?

Of course they are arguing it's harder because they now now have to compete with "whites and Asians" rather than "more diverse populations."  [/quote]

Yes, Barnsley stayed the same size, three CES classes per grade.[/quote]

So Barnsley, with three classes/grade, went from RM, Rockville, WJ and Wheaton (17-18) to RM, Rockville and Wheaton (18-19)?  And CCES went from two classes for BCC and Whitman (17-18) to three classes for BCC, Whitman and WJ (18-19)?  So the WJ kids went from competing for three classroom's worth of spots with three other high schools, to three classroom's worth of spots with two other high schools.  Sounds great for the Wj kids, unless one thinks that competing with Whitman and BCC kids is harder than competing with RM,Rockville and Wheaton kids.  Which is exactly what the poster was arguing (and not some ridiculous offense of having a diverse program at Barnsley become even more diverse).  I'm of the view that, at the very top. there are equally very strong kids at every ES, and with the small number of kids who are offered spots, it really doesn't matter.  [b]So maybe MCPS actually created more spots by keeping Barnsley at three CES classes for the remaining clusters.  That's fine by me, and would be consistent with its stated policies.[/b][/quote]

Yup, that's exactly what they did.[/quote]

This hardly amounts to a countywide conspiracy to skew CES admissions to the under represented. [/quote]

Agreed.  Some people must live on a different planet.  Our DC went to an excellent home ES before going to a CES program; a friend's DC is at a Title 1 ES school in MoCo.  I have no doubt that both school try very hard to provide the best education possible to the students they serve, but the challenges in a Title 1 school are stark.  For the very best students there, a spot at a CES program is going to be night and day different, and possibly life-altering; for somebody coming from a strong home ES, it's different and better, but, really, more very nice/glad-to-be-here than critical.  I get the frustration that many parents have with the perceived shortage of spots at the CES programs, but the bigger picture is that I have no problem with a decision by MoCo to create more spots for students who are going to benefit most.  (And, no, these students are not less qualified or promising.)
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