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Reply to "Care to share your child's CES raw scores?"
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Our DC had exactly the same scores on the CogAt as the OP: 24, 17, 15 or 56/64 total. DC was accepted. To the OP: I wouldn't think of that score on the figure matrices on sinking your child in any way, seriously. Only the percentiles were reported so how could it? (From the discussion on another thread and info gained elsewhere, it looks like this section of the test is the most unfamiliar to the kids and on top of that the least indicative of how a child will do in school (or specifically advanced/accelerated programs). It is a nonverbal test that is attempting to get at pattern recognition and intelligence that can be "hidden" in students that are testing in a second language they are not yet fully fluent in. Everything that the MCPS has said is that the percentiles for the total screener only. It seems like the 99th percentile range is very large based on what has been listed here. At least 53-64 Really points to the the other measures being (necessarily) just as important as CogAt. The CogAT screener is not enough to narrow the pool sufficiently for this program with it's limited seats. MAP scores, Report Cards, and Reading Level (as indicated on report cards) seem to have had a larger weight than they did when the full CogAt was used in years past. This doesn't necessarily entail a dumbing down, as I keep hearing brought up on this site. How are the other indicators not valid? I don't know what motivated the decision not to do the full CogAt anymore. I can imagine expense and trying to not freak out kids who wouldn't be up to talking a LONG test could both be factors. But once they made the decision to not do the full CogAt, I can't imagine MCPS not needing to give other indicators more weight. Simply too many kids would perform at 99th percentile (or near it) on the screener. [/quote] Also remember that the scores are age normed. So a 9 year old’s score would carry different weight than an 8 year old’s score. Exact same score, different kids, different results.[/quote]
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