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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]That is the attitude of most religions with belief in an afterlife.

What seems disturbing to me about the most prevalent belief in Christianity, is that you accept Jesus as your lord and savior and all your prior sins are cleared. You could have murdered children and raped women, and stolen from the destitute, abused the helpless... and you're clear because you repent? That is not a God I could ever, ever believe in.

I was raised Muslim, and was taught that it's more about tipping the scales. Whether or not you get to heaven is about the actions overall. You don't repent, and then the slate is wiped clean - the scale is always calculating. You have to be conscientious, always. Everything matters every minute of every day, and all your deeds will be weighed when you die.

That said, I no longer believe in religion or any Gods, but the latter seemed like a much more palatable, just and fair pill to swallow.   [/quote]
Yes, that's what bothers me too with the Christian idea of going to Heaven, regardless of actions, as long as you believe in Jesus. I once asked a devout Christian if that meant Hitler could be in Heaven, and she told me "yes" - as long as he believed Jesus died for his sins. That idea is reprehensible to me.

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OMG you have posted this before and it led to this incredibly long tangent where people tried to explain to you that given that Hitler committed suicide, there is absolutely no likelihood that he "repented" or found Jesus at the last moment of his life.  His last moments were filled with fear and self-pity.  Your Christian friend gave you incorrect information.  [/quote]
I didn't post that before. It was someone else, and I never saw the long thread to which you refer.[/quote]

I have a hard time believing that.  Unless there is some other person who asked their devout Christian friend whether it is possible for Hitler to go to Heaven and that devout friend said yes, as long as he accepted Jesus.  How often do you think that conversation happens?  Is Hitler's afterlife really that important to so many people?[/quote]
First, I think I would remember if I asked that question. I gather you are calling me a liar.

Second, I've heard that question raised many times, by many people. It's actually the most obvious example. When Christians claim that ANYONE, no matter how reprehensible his behavior, will go to Heaven if he accepts Jesus, the MOST OBVIOUS example is Hitler. [/quote]

And the answer is:  NO- there is no way Hitler could have gone to heaven.  NONE.  He was a horror until the very last moment of his life.  That is why it is a horribly obvious and dumb example.[/quote]
Well I certainly prefer your answer. The idea that Hitler could be in Heaven, which is what the Christian woman told me, turns my stomach.[/quote]

As a Christian, I’d say basing your knowledge of the entire religion off of one Christian’s opinion about Hitler probably isn’t the best way to form your feelings of Christianity.

I don’t know, but most Christians would not expect to see Hitler in heaven.[/quote]

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