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[quote=Anonymous]This is quite the amusing thread. When I see people type, "There's no way you'd take U.Va. over Cornell unless you couldn't afford Cornell" I am really surprised. Is your child preparing to go to grad or professional school? If so, are there hard stats that show that Cornell grads have a statistically significant advantage over U.Va. grads in terms of grad/professional school admissions? If not, couldn't the in-state tuition difference b/w U.Va. and Cornell be applied to their grad/professional school costs? Wouldn't that make the child's life a little easier? I went to William & Mary for undergrad and Duke for law school. Honestly, you'd have a really difficult time convincing me to spend $30-$35K more a year to send a daughter or son to Duke over W&M at in-state prices. I'd close with this observation: there is a difference between the Ivies and Stanford/Vandy/Duke/Rice kids and kids from U.Va./UNC/Texas/Berkeley/Texas/W&M/UCLA/GT (the "public Ivies"). There is very little academic or cultural separation b/w the kids in the top 3rd of those schools and the Ivies/Stanford/Duke/Vandy. It's the middle and bottom thirds where kids at a UT-Austin or U.Va. or GT aren't as academically gifted or culturally aware as the kids at Cornell or Rice. That's where the "state school" vibe kicks in at a school like Texas or Cal (frats, athletic events, etc.) I think you'd find that grad schools and HR departments follow this as well...If you're in the top 3d at any of those public schools, you're going to have the exact same doors opened for you in grad school an in the job market that you'd have with a degree from Cornell or Brown. If you think your child is going to be in the top third of one of the "public Ivies", I'd think long and hard about paying an extra $100-150K just for the "prestige" of saying, "I went to an Ivy League school." There are plenty of kids at the law firm I work at who probably wouldn't have minded if mom or dad had "made" them go to Cal or UNC and gave them the savings to apply to law school tuition. If you don't deal with a lot of recent law school grads, you'd be surprised at the kids I see with $200K+ in debt right out of school. [/quote]
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