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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The whole point of this thread is to address the question, "does TJ help with college admissions"?

I have present data reported from the Naviance page showing where kids like my daughter were admitted.  My daughter is a good student, mostly A's with an occaisional B and decent PSAT scores (not a NMSF).  But she did not take any prep course for the PSAT.  She will for the SAT, mostly to get more familitiar with strategies for the test.

The answer was a kid like my daughter probably would have no benefit at TJ for college admissions.  She is probably in the top 10% (school does not rank) of her school.  Definitely the top 15%.

My point was that someone like my daughter:  top 15% at a better school -- and madision is a better school, has a 45% chance at UVA, 73% chance at W & M, and near certainty at Va Tech (not seperating engineering).  And they have about a 5-10% chance of getting into an elite.

These numbers are not much different from TJ overall. [/quote]

or to put it another way TJ helps for the top 10% of TJ who would be awesome at their base schools too but who actually are extremely bright and take advantage of the uniqueness of TJ

for the middle of the class to the top 10% its a wash they would have had similar college results from base school

for the bottom 50% of TJ it hurts and results are lower than if they would have stayed at base school and been 10% vs the bottom half of TJ.

So overall for TJ 10% net positive 40% neutral and 50% negative.  You do the math folks[/quote]

Exactly.  And the reason why the top 10% at TJ does better is because of grade inflation/score compression.  It used to be that everyone with a A average was brilliant (3.7 and above).  Now, any hardworking kid should have an A average.  Basically, at the base school, you can not tell the difference statistically between two students at the top.  For example, DD will not take 7 AP classes in 11 or 12 because she is in the band.  That may hurt her GPA.  But, the colleges will not care.  On the other hand, she plays a very rare instrument, which they may need (assuming she is good enough).  Same thing happens with the SAT score.  Compression at the top.

With TJ,  there is still compression at the top, but All A's or all A's with one or two B's will have you in the top 10% of a much better class.  Of course, it is harder to get the 4.4+ at TJ than the base.  So the to 10% at TJ most certainly get into the elites.

From 50%-10%, would be in the top 10% at the base school.

of 0-50 at TJ, they may well have been in the top 10% and probably at the top 20%.  They could get into one of the better state schools at the base school.

And for all but the very top, TJ seems to be very stressful for the kids.  [/quote]

+1,000![/quote]

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