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[quote=Anonymous][quote] [quote]NP. Penn is still higher ranked [b]in the public eye,[/b] and it’s on more US and international rankings, than Brown or Dartmouth. Whatever you think of deoaetmentsnon a case-by-case basis, these rankings generally go for broader academic gestalt.  I can’t believe we’re still discussing this. [/quote]

News flash for the Penn booster.... there is no one "public eye". And lets be honest here, [b]most of the public doesn't know the difference[/b] between [b]UPenn[/b] and Penn State. 
I have degrees from HYP so no dog in this fight, just calling it the way I see it. [/quote]

When it comes to lay prestige, Harvard is the one ivy everybody recognizes, with Yale and Princeton being distant seconds. The uneducated and semi-educated masses do not know any of the other 5 ivies and know Penn State for college football. But why does that matter?  People in sophisticated circles recognize Penn and the other non-HYP ivies and also recognize that Penn is a stronger school than Brown and Dartmouth, as shown by the myriad of different types of rankings out there, yield rates, cross-admit splits, endowments, fundraising etc.  I think by "public eye" the PP meant the educated people, not the unwashed masses.

Btw not being able to distinguish between Penn and Penn State or name the non-HYP ivies, says more about that person than it does about the schools. 
This is actually a very good test for gauging how sophisticated someone is. The first step would be for them to know the difference between Penn and Penn State. The second would be to know than it is Penn and not UPenn. All of my HYP acquaintances pass both tests...[/quote]

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